Developers could build all over our green belt (From Basildon Recorder)

the biggest weakness exploited will be the Council's weakness for money

maybe a developer will submit plans to build over Lake Meadows.....

GREEN belt land could be at the mercy of housing developers because councils have failed to create planning blueprints in time.

Basildon and Castle Point councils have failed to get local development frameworks - a planning guide of what goes where over the next 20 years - published before changes that will favour house builders come into force.

Probably due to Tony Ballsup's personal, costly and ultimately futile war against the residents of Dale Farm, the Council's continuing bending over backwards to accomodate their Developer friends under the guise of paying for the Sporting Village, the endless rounds of backslapping bunfights and foreign trips and gurning for photos in the local rags.

Cosmo Spring wrote:

GREEN belt land could be at the mercy of housing developers because councils have failed to create planning blueprints in time.

Basildon and Castle Point councils have failed to get local development frameworks - a planning guide of what goes where over the next 20 years - published before changes that will favour house builders come into force.

Probably due to Tony Ballsup's personal, costly and ultimately futile war against the residents of Dale Farm, the Council's continuing bending over backwards to accomodate their Developer friends under the guise of paying for the Sporting Village, the endless rounds of backslapping bunfights and foreign trips and gurning for photos in the local rags.

lease don't forget this inexcusable ineptitude come the next rounds of local elections

Wonder what we have to loose on Canvey? The Council already wants to overbuild at Canvey Supply and build an unknown number on Thorney Bay. Castle Point Council have consistently voted through developments against the Canvey residents wishes so maybe the Government dictating what and where we may well be better off. Certainly cannot be worse off Canvey can we? Remember the Government rejected the original Local plan in part because of too many builds on Canvey and since all the major approved builds approved have been on Canvey. All voted through of course by the mainland Councillors.
Care to comment Colin MaClean?

Very disappointed, this happened last time to Basildon Council as well with the Local Plan, I would have thought that this administration would have redoubled their efforts to get the LDF completed on time, this time. Last time they blamed Government inspectors I would like to know who is to blame this time?

John T Pharro wrote:
Wonder what we have to loose on Canvey? The Council already wants to overbuild at Canvey Supply and build an unknown number on Thorney Bay. Castle Point Council have consistently voted through developments against the Canvey residents wishes so maybe the Government dictating what and where we may well be better off. Certainly cannot be worse off Canvey can we? Remember the Government rejected the original Local plan in part because of too many builds on Canvey and since all the major approved builds approved have been on Canvey. All voted through of course by the mainland Councillors.
Care to comment Colin MaClean?

More the Merrier...

Ball wrote:
Very disappointed, this happened last time to Basildon Council as well with the Local Plan, I would have thought that this administration would have redoubled their efforts to get the LDF completed on time, this time. Last time they blamed Government inspectors I would like to know who is to blame this time?

See still got the ache about the schools then. Cut and paste if you can disprove it.

John T Pharro wrote:

Ball wrote:
Very disappointed, this happened last time to Basildon Council as well with the Local Plan, I would have thought that this administration would have redoubled their efforts to get the LDF completed on time, this time. Last time they blamed Government inspectors I would like to know who is to blame this time?

See still got the ache about the schools then. Cut and paste if you can disprove it.

Apologies wrong post reply

Carnabackable wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:
Wonder what we have to loose on Canvey? The Council already wants to overbuild at Canvey Supply and build an unknown number on Thorney Bay. Castle Point Council have consistently voted through developments against the Canvey residents wishes so maybe the Government dictating what and where we may well be better off. Certainly cannot be worse off Canvey can we? Remember the Government rejected the original Local plan in part because of too many builds on Canvey and since all the major approved builds approved have been on Canvey. All voted through of course by the mainland Councillors.
Care to comment Colin MaClean?

More the Merrier...

Yet another dig at Canvey. See you still have the ache about the schools issue. Cut and paste if you can disprove. You cannot can you?

John T Pharro wrote:

Carnabackable wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:
Wonder what we have to loose on Canvey? The Council already wants to overbuild at Canvey Supply and build an unknown number on Thorney Bay. Castle Point Council have consistently voted through developments against the Canvey residents wishes so maybe the Government dictating what and where we may well be better off. Certainly cannot be worse off Canvey can we? Remember the Government rejected the original Local plan in part because of too many builds on Canvey and since all the major approved builds approved have been on Canvey. All voted through of course by the mainland Councillors.
Care to comment Colin MaClean?

More the Merrier...

Yet another dig at Canvey. See you still have the ache about the schools issue. Cut and paste if you can disprove. You cannot can you?

Get a life, and try to post on the correct comment, have you been to spec savers recently ?

Canvey a bad place to build on as the land is just a hard topping.
Most houses on a raft as normal build would sink.
Canvey has no bench mark as there is no building to put one on.

Ball wrote:
Very disappointed, this happened last time to Basildon Council as well with the Local Plan, I would have thought that this administration would have redoubled their efforts to get the LDF completed on time, this time. Last time they blamed Government inspectors I would like to know who is to blame this time?

Planners look at plans but don't know how to plan.

Carnabackable wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Carnabackable wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:
Wonder what we have to loose on Canvey? The Council already wants to overbuild at Canvey Supply and build an unknown number on Thorney Bay. Castle Point Council have consistently voted through developments against the Canvey residents wishes so maybe the Government dictating what and where we may well be better off. Certainly cannot be worse off Canvey can we? Remember the Government rejected the original Local plan in part because of too many builds on Canvey and since all the major approved builds approved have been on Canvey. All voted through of course by the mainland Councillors.
Care to comment Colin MaClean?

More the Merrier...

Yet another dig at Canvey. See you still have the ache about the schools issue. Cut and paste if you can disprove. You cannot can you?

Get a life, and try to post on the correct comment, have you been to spec savers recently ?

You admit then the Ofsted reports for Rayleigh are not as good as Canvey. That is a fact. So whereas my comments are not relevant to the issue neither are your constant digs at Canvey with your sarcastic comments.

Canvey has the space and capacity for another thousand houses, just have a look on google earth, to see the waste lands..

Carnabackable wrote:
Canvey has the space and capacity for another thousand houses, just have a look on google earth, to see the waste lands..

Nasty comment again. What wasteland or is it West Canvey Marsh run by the RSBP or Canvey Wick. triple SSI site you are looking at. Against how many RSPB sites and triple SSI sites in Rayleigh?

John T Pharro wrote:

Carnabackable wrote:
Canvey has the space and capacity for another thousand houses, just have a look on google earth, to see the waste lands..

Nasty comment again. What wasteland or is it West Canvey Marsh run by the RSBP or Canvey Wick. triple SSI site you are looking at. Against how many RSPB sites and triple SSI sites in Rayleigh?

Or maybe the a golf course or Waterside Sports complex and swimming pool against how many golf courses in Rayleigh or swimming pools?

John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Carnabackable wrote:
Canvey has the space and capacity for another thousand houses, just have a look on google earth, to see the waste lands..

Nasty comment again. What wasteland or is it West Canvey Marsh run by the RSBP or Canvey Wick. triple SSI site you are looking at. Against how many RSPB sites and triple SSI sites in Rayleigh?

Or maybe the a golf course or Waterside Sports complex and swimming pool against how many golf courses in Rayleigh or swimming pools?

Oh I just thought of another site, waterside roundabout, nice location for a little estate...

Carnabackable wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

John T Pharro wrote:

Carnabackable wrote:
Canvey has the space and capacity for another thousand houses, just have a look on google earth, to see the waste lands..

Nasty comment again. What wasteland or is it West Canvey Marsh run by the RSBP or Canvey Wick. triple SSI site you are looking at. Against how many RSPB sites and triple SSI sites in Rayleigh?

Or maybe the a golf course or Waterside Sports complex and swimming pool against how many golf courses in Rayleigh or swimming pools?

Oh I just thought of another site, waterside roundabout, nice location for a little estate...

Another silly comment answer the questions. To help it is those with the? At the end.

So Bas gets concreted over because the head of planning failed to submit a piece of paper in time? Did he have time to clear his desk before getting his P45 and booted out of the door?
Sorry, my mistake - this is the public (accountability-free
) sector.

Cosmo Spring wrote:

GREEN belt land could be at the mercy of housing developers because councils have failed to create planning blueprints in time.

Basildon and Castle Point councils have failed to get local development frameworks - a planning guide of what goes where over the next 20 years - published before changes that will favour house builders come into force.

Probably due to Tony Ballsup's personal, costly and ultimately futile war against the residents of Dale Farm, the Council's continuing bending over backwards to accomodate their Developer friends under the guise of paying for the Sporting Village, the endless rounds of backslapping bunfights and foreign trips and gurning for photos in the local rags.

2011 it was posted on here many many times that the attack on DF was to disguise the coming granting of planning on real GB land..The DF fiasco was to show how far BBC would go to save even dubious GB land so when they are 'forced' by govenment to 'friendly' development companies to build it wont look as if they are in favour of...BBC counted on the prejudice to allow them to ride on the crest of that... Bigoted Clowns the majority of you.

C A N V E Y I S L A N D

Carnabackable wrote:
Canvey has the space and capacity for another thousand houses, just have a look on google earth, to see the waste lands..

You'll have to go find new places to go dogging if they build over your usual haunts...

iknowbetter wrote:

Carnabackable wrote:
Canvey has the space and capacity for another thousand houses, just have a look on google earth, to see the waste lands..

You'll have to go find new places to go dogging if they build over your usual haunts...

keep an eye out for avocets while you're over there....

We will be like LA in America. One huge slab of concrete stretching from London to Shoeburyness. No where for kids to play - parks simply dog toilets - oops that one's already happened. And where are the extra roads for all these housing developments? There aren't any so expect longer traffic jams to get anywhere, Londons social problems soon in your neighbourhood as much of the housing will be to take Londons immigrants. More and more and more people because we cannot say no to milions of EU citizens who want to live here - dont worry your kids will get a job wont they? Like hell! And of course the schools can cope and the NHS - Yep freeloading Britain welcomes anyone who wants to move here. Bring your large families - the British taxpayers are happy to pay housing benefit, child benefit etc. And we don't even worry if you're a terrorist, rapist, murderer or paedo - good ol Britain has a house waiting for you and if you know how to play the system you can claim thousands through the lucky dip called the human rights act. Dont anyone moan though because YOU all voted for the puppet government controlled by the EU. Immigration is the root cause of all this because we have to house more and more EU citizens and asylum seekers. Goodbye old England - hello third world England. And you mugs voted for the main parties destroying our country so don't dare moan when every field is turned to concrete by some fat cat developer.

Seasider90 wrote:
We will be like LA in America. One huge slab of concrete stretching from London to Shoeburyness. No where for kids to play - parks simply dog toilets - oops that one's already happened. And where are the extra roads for all these housing developments? There aren't any so expect longer traffic jams to get anywhere, Londons social problems soon in your neighbourhood as much of the housing will be to take Londons immigrants. More and more and more people because we cannot say no to milions of EU citizens who want to live here - dont worry your kids will get a job wont they? Like hell! And of course the schools can cope and the NHS - Yep freeloading Britain welcomes anyone who wants to move here. Bring your large families - the British taxpayers are happy to pay housing benefit, child benefit etc. And we don't even worry if you're a terrorist, rapist, murderer or paedo - good ol Britain has a house waiting for you and if you know how to play the system you can claim thousands through the lucky dip called the human rights act. Dont anyone moan though because YOU all voted for the puppet government controlled by the EU. Immigration is the root cause of all this because we have to house more and more EU citizens and asylum seekers. Goodbye old England - hello third world England. And you mugs voted for the main parties destroying our country so don't dare moan when every field is turned to concrete by some fat cat developer.

Ever thought of emigrating? Oh you can't you'd be the same evil, as your describing, oh well put up with, this horror...

Carnackable - yeah great though out response as usual in your posts. Mug.

Seasider90 wrote:
Carnackable - yeah great though out response as usual in your posts. Mug.

Enjoy the never ending convoys of cement mixers, when you want some culture, an escape, a breath of fresh air, or scenic views, come to Rayleigh.......
Get ready for the mass housing builds, too many empty fields, holding wild horses, in areas hardly considered green belt.

Seems to me this was rather convienant for the councils to *forget* to do the relivant paper work. just means that basildon will have even more green spaces stolen for houses. they cant sell the houses that they have already built. and how many of these new houses will be for social housing???
where i live our local greenspace is under threat of development. will love to know where will all these new ppl be registered with a doctor?? what about schools they are full as it is. and i know for a fact that Basildon hospital is on Black Alert. ppl waiting for hours to be seen by a doctor. some patienta ahving to wait in ambulances toll theres a bed that comes free. if they are going to expand the towns they need to double the hospital at least.
yes very convient for the council indeed.

Ball wrote:
Very disappointed, this happened last time to Basildon Council as well with the Local Plan, I would have thought that this administration would have redoubled their efforts to get the LDF completed on time, this time. Last time they blamed Government inspectors I would like to know who is to blame this time?

Remember that Option A was rejected by Government so plans needed to be changed.

Option A was never viable in any case and should not have been submitted.

hoppie wrote:
Canvey a bad place to build on as the land is just a hard topping.
Most houses on a raft as normal build would sink.
Canvey has no bench mark as there is no building to put one on.

raft is common on clay. It is mot just used on Canvey.

Lastlaugh... wrote:

Cosmo Spring wrote:

GREEN belt land could be at the mercy of housing developers because councils have failed to create planning blueprints in time.

Basildon and Castle Point councils have failed to get local development frameworks - a planning guide of what goes where over the next 20 years - published before changes that will favour house builders come into force.

Probably due to Tony Ballsup's personal, costly and ultimately futile war against the residents of Dale Farm, the Council's continuing bending over backwards to accomodate their Developer friends under the guise of paying for the Sporting Village, the endless rounds of backslapping bunfights and foreign trips and gurning for photos in the local rags.

2011 it was posted on here many many times that the attack on DF was to disguise the coming granting of planning on real GB land..The DF fiasco was to show how far BBC would go to save even dubious GB land so when they are 'forced' by govenment to 'friendly' development companies to build it wont look as if they are in favour of...BBC counted on the prejudice to allow them to ride on the crest of that... Bigoted Clowns the majority of you.

What a load of old rubbish!

People doing a geophys survey in Rawreth lane yesterday, just to the west of Macro.
Surely they aren't going to build there ?

Letmetryagain wrote:
People doing a geophys survey in Rawreth lane yesterday, just to the west of Macro.
Surely they aren't going to build there ?

There was rumours a few years back about building there!

Seasider90 wrote:
We will be like LA in America. One huge slab of concrete stretching from London to Shoeburyness. No where for kids to play - parks simply dog toilets - oops that one's already happened. And where are the extra roads for all these housing developments? There aren't any so expect longer traffic jams to get anywhere, Londons social problems soon in your neighbourhood as much of the housing will be to take Londons immigrants. More and more and more people because we cannot say no to milions of EU citizens who want to live here - dont worry your kids will get a job wont they? Like hell! And of course the schools can cope and the NHS - Yep freeloading Britain welcomes anyone who wants to move here. Bring your large families - the British taxpayers are happy to pay housing benefit, child benefit etc. And we don't even worry if you're a terrorist, rapist, murderer or paedo - good ol Britain has a house waiting for you and if you know how to play the system you can claim thousands through the lucky dip called the human rights act. Dont anyone moan though because YOU all voted for the puppet government controlled by the EU. Immigration is the root cause of all this because we have to house more and more EU citizens and asylum seekers. Goodbye old England - hello third world England. And you mugs voted for the main parties destroying our country so don't dare moan when every field is turned to concrete by some fat cat developer.

The only difference is nobody is sending "aid" to Britian despite many of its indiginous population not being able to afford food or heating.

One day the brain dead people of this country might wake up. More stealth taxes than ever before to feed the great EU superstate. Flood the country with immigrants and we're less likely to create an Arab spring - not that the English people have the guts to actually bite back at the politicans that are screwing them on a daily basis. The people in this country are great at complaining but do nothing. Watch your fields disappear, your towns and cities degenerate, your disposable income dimininish - the food handouts have already started - hasn't that given you a clue? The pensioners overlooked whilst the newcomers get housed and given benefits. Romanians, Moldovans, Bulgarians - all coming en masse. Great Britain? Great joke more like. But you keep feeding the political machine that chains you to a poorer and poorer existence. Green belt? It wont exist in the south of England.

And just think this time last year the vast majority on this, sometimes despicable board, were gloating and praising the same council and government for kicking people out of their homes and off their land! How many 'ordinary' people have lost their homes since then...? We are all cattle to them...

John T Pharro wrote:
Wonder what we have to loose on Canvey? The Council already wants to overbuild at Canvey Supply and build an unknown number on Thorney Bay. Castle Point Council have consistently voted through developments against the Canvey residents wishes so maybe the Government dictating what and where we may well be better off. Certainly cannot be worse off Canvey can we? Remember the Government rejected the original Local plan in part because of too many builds on Canvey and since all the major approved builds approved have been on Canvey. All voted through of course by the mainland Councillors. Care to comment Colin MaClean?

John
how wrong you are Canvey has less than 50% of the houses allocated for the first 5 years and the years 6 to 15 have yet to be decided.

Seasider90 wrote:
We will be like LA in America. One huge slab of concrete stretching from London to Shoeburyness. No where for kids to play - parks simply dog toilets - oops that one's already happened. And where are the extra roads for all these housing developments? There aren't any so expect longer traffic jams to get anywhere, Londons social problems soon in your neighbourhood as much of the housing will be to take Londons immigrants. More and more and more people because we cannot say no to milions of EU citizens who want to live here - dont worry your kids will get a job wont they? Like hell! And of course the schools can cope and the NHS - Yep freeloading Britain welcomes anyone who wants to move here. Bring your large families - the British taxpayers are happy to pay housing benefit, child benefit etc. And we don't even worry if you're a terrorist, rapist, murderer or paedo - good ol Britain has a house waiting for you and if you know how to play the system you can claim thousands through the lucky dip called the human rights act. Dont anyone moan though because YOU all voted for the puppet government controlled by the EU. Immigration is the root cause of all this because we have to house more and more EU citizens and asylum seekers. Goodbye old England - hello third world England. And you mugs voted for the main parties destroying our country so don't dare moan when every field is turned to concrete by some fat cat developer.

...what?