Flash floods: The great clean-up starts

Flood water cascading onto the seafront in Westcliff. Pic: Jenni Dandridge

Eastern Esplanade flooding, Pic Marc Ayers

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TORRENTIAL downpours caused chaos in south Essex as roads and shops were hit by severe flooding.

This morning  Essex Police urged  motorists to avoid the A127, particularly at the Rayleigh Weir, which remains flooded  after Saturday's heavy rain. Officers say they are working with Essex County Council to get the water pumped away and reopen the road as soon as possible.

More than 200 incidents of flooding were reported to police on Saturday with areas worst affected including Southend, Canvey, Maldon, Burnham, Battlesbridge and Benfleet.

A police spokesman said: "Officers would like to remind people not to drive through any flood water."

Essex County Fire and Rescue Service received more than 300 calls to flooding incidents overnight.

The most severely affected areas were in the east of the county with the vast majority of calls coming from Hockley, Canvey, Westcliff, Rayleigh, Basildon, Billericay and Leigh.

Assistant Chief Fire Officer Dave Bill said: "Both our control operators and officers did an excellent job last night. We fielded and dealt with more than 300 calls to incidents involving flooding and our staff worked extremely hard in difficult conditions rising to the challenge last night's weather presented.

"On the whole officers were sent to incidents to asses and if there was risk to people or the environment crews would attend to pump the water away."

The drama started at lunchtime on Saturday.

Motorists suffered long delays after the London-bound A127 was closed between the Mayflower retail park and the Fortune of War at around 1.15pm on Saturday following a burst man hole cover caused by the heavy rainfall.

Rayleigh Weir underpass was shut to traffic because of the severe flooding which meant traffic was diverted up the slip road. It remained closed this morning. See picture below by Lewis Gordon

Basildon Recorder: cscsa

Eastern Esplanade in Southend was also under 1ft of water. Meanwhile in Western Esplande, flood water cascaded down to the seafront. The flooding also affected Southend seafront arcades.

And Victoria Road, Southend (below - pic by Steve Healey) was badly hit.

Basildon Recorder: vic road 2 flooding.jpg

The heavy rain caused a nightmare for motorists across south Essex:

  • The A129 Southend Road in Wickford was blocked in both directions between the Bridge Road junction and Vista Road because of surface water on the roads
  • Flooding was also affected the A13 Bournes Green Chase in both directions in North Shoebury between Poynters Lane and the Elm Road junction. Shoppers could not get into Asda in Shoebury as a result of the flooding.  Picture below by Echo reader Mike Childs

Basildon Recorder: Heavy Rain and floods

  • Other key areas were also hit by flooding, including the Rayleigh Weir roundabout, the Harp House roundabout in Southend and Daws Heath Road in Thundersley.
  • Western Esplanade in Southend was shut due to the weather
  •  Chalkwell Esplanade and Thorpe Hall Avenue in Thorpe Bay were blocked because of the flooding. Prince Avenue in Westcliff was also blocked.

Andy Lewis, a Southend Council director said: “We are responding to numerous issues that have arisen across the borough as a result of heavy rain today.

“Our Environmental Care teams and the Council’s Emergency Planning Officer are working closely with our contractors, plus Anglia Water and the emergency services to respond as best we can to incidents of flooding that have been caused by the severe weather.”

Norwich Avenue, Southend, was also hit by the deluge, illustrated in the picture below by Echo reader Reece Taylor

Basildon Recorder: Norwich Avenue, Southend. Pic taken by Echo reader Reece Taylor

In Billericay, the Waitrose store was flooded. About 1.5ft of water was pumped out of the store by firefighters. Other shops were also affected.

Rail company Greater Anglia reported delays and cancellations of some trains after flooding affected Prittlewell Station.
 

Hazardous driving conditions were also reported on Billericay High Street due to severe flooding.

Essex Fire and Rescue Service Control Operators received a large number of calls to flooding incidents caused by this morning's rain. The incidents have largely centred on Basildon, Billericay, Benfleet and Southend. Over the course of the morning the Service has received dozens of calls with calls continuing to flood in.

Fire officers are warning drivers to take care and not get themselves and their families trapped by driving into flood water.

Just 2ft of water is enough to float a car and six inches of water will reach the bottom of most passenger cars; this depth can cause loss of control or possible stalling as water is sucked into the exhaust or washes into the air intake.

Motorists should never attempt to drive through water deeper than the centre of their wheels. If water gets into the car’s air intake or into the electrics the car will stop leaving driver and passengers trapped.

The water could also be hiding damaged road or missing manhole covers.

Motorists should take particular care when crossing fords, these often become flooded and extremely dangerous with fast flowing water.

A spokesman for ECFRS said: "It is important that when faced with water drivers exercise a little common sense. If they can they should find an alternative route. If there is no way round they should park safely and get out to check the depth of the water before they drive into it.

"Just driving into water and hoping for the best is not an option, by the

Motorists are being urged to drive with caution during the bad weather.

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2:49pm Sat 24 Aug 13

emcee says...

Manhole covers are lifing all over the place.
Manhole covers are lifing all over the place. emcee
  • Score: 11

3:39pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Alice in Her Own Land :P says...

Warners Bridge roundabout is flooded.
Warners Bridge roundabout is flooded. Alice in Her Own Land :P
  • Score: 5

4:10pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Little John says...

The seafront is under water........and the tides out!
The seafront is under water........and the tides out! Little John
  • Score: 15

4:30pm Sat 24 Aug 13

firedog says...

emcee wrote:
Manhole covers are lifing all over the place.
Person covers! Manhole covers are not allowed to lift.
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Manhole covers are lifing all over the place.[/p][/quote]Person covers! Manhole covers are not allowed to lift. firedog
  • Score: -2

5:04pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Heather84 says...

the junction of woodfield road and estate road has flooded, not a major junction, but I thought I'd mention it.
the junction of woodfield road and estate road has flooded, not a major junction, but I thought I'd mention it. Heather84
  • Score: 2

5:05pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Fallguy9999 says...

Its a bit wet
Its a bit wet Fallguy9999
  • Score: 11

5:21pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Joe Wildman-Clark says...

Morons were speeding along West River... Ooops sorry West Road causing large wave to soak people on foot.

Thank you to the guy that warned me and said use M&S/BP to keep away from the road.
Morons were speeding along West River... Ooops sorry West Road causing large wave to soak people on foot. Thank you to the guy that warned me and said use M&S/BP to keep away from the road. Joe Wildman-Clark
  • Score: 10

5:27pm Sat 24 Aug 13

woolstone says...

I think everywhere has had bad floods, Rayleigh has had its fair share. Waitrose car park was flood, people took off shoes and rolled their trouser legs up to wade to their cars. Still some idiots going fast on the roads.
I think everywhere has had bad floods, Rayleigh has had its fair share. Waitrose car park was flood, people took off shoes and rolled their trouser legs up to wade to their cars. Still some idiots going fast on the roads. woolstone
  • Score: 7

5:48pm Sat 24 Aug 13

fieldy23 says...

Again building of too many houses contributes to flooding. Natural flood defences such as field or woods are now roads or house or driveways. All the water flows into old drains or sewers which cannot cope. And what does Rochford council want to do? Build more houses. Its not rocket science.
Again building of too many houses contributes to flooding. Natural flood defences such as field or woods are now roads or house or driveways. All the water flows into old drains or sewers which cannot cope. And what does Rochford council want to do? Build more houses. Its not rocket science. fieldy23
  • Score: 66

5:50pm Sat 24 Aug 13

tink62 says...

the smell on the seafront by corals was horrendous
the smell on the seafront by corals was horrendous tink62
  • Score: 9

5:57pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

As those terraced houses have below pavement cellars, they have probably filled up as well, there's a real stench opp the sea life centre, they are saying five inches of rain has fallen in the last 6 hours.
As those terraced houses have below pavement cellars, they have probably filled up as well, there's a real stench opp the sea life centre, they are saying five inches of rain has fallen in the last 6 hours. Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 9

5:59pm Sat 24 Aug 13

the citizen says...

I blame the Airport !
I blame the Airport ! the citizen
  • Score: -34

6:06pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

Ineverknewthat wrote:
As those terraced houses have below pavement cellars, they have probably filled up as well, there's a real stench opp the sea life centre, they are saying five inches of rain has fallen in the last 6 hours.
It's ok in Thorpe Bay, slightly higher, though driving past the Sea life centre at about 2 MPH, looks bad for the terraced properties.
Trouble is some people driving at 20 MPH, causes a mini Tsunami threatening properties with basements.
[quote][p][bold]Ineverknewthat[/bold] wrote: As those terraced houses have below pavement cellars, they have probably filled up as well, there's a real stench opp the sea life centre, they are saying five inches of rain has fallen in the last 6 hours.[/p][/quote]It's ok in Thorpe Bay, slightly higher, though driving past the Sea life centre at about 2 MPH, looks bad for the terraced properties. Trouble is some people driving at 20 MPH, causes a mini Tsunami threatening properties with basements. Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 10

6:30pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Rochford Rob says...

All the drains on Southend Rd Rochford are blocked. I wonder why after one of the wettest winters on record. Did RDC skimp on cleaning them thinking they'd all be flushed clean?

Maybe they'll sent a Street Scene officer to spray them a funny colour.
All the drains on Southend Rd Rochford are blocked. I wonder why after one of the wettest winters on record. Did RDC skimp on cleaning them thinking they'd all be flushed clean? Maybe they'll sent a Street Scene officer to spray them a funny colour. Rochford Rob
  • Score: 14

6:35pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

I hear the Golden mile amusement arcades are flooded, with electrical shorting they are closed
I hear the Golden mile amusement arcades are flooded, with electrical shorting they are closed Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 2

6:51pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Howard Cháse says...

no-one had to be rescued from Buttsbury Wash yet?
no-one had to be rescued from Buttsbury Wash yet? Howard Cháse
  • Score: -4

6:53pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Howard Cháse says...

makes one all misty eyed thinking back to all that lovely rain we had last year doesn't it? Happy days.....
makes one all misty eyed thinking back to all that lovely rain we had last year doesn't it? Happy days..... Howard Cháse
  • Score: -6

6:58pm Sat 24 Aug 13

LeeroyBrown says...

I had fun riding my bike around in this, some places did smell incalculably disgusting though. I cried in the shower for hours trying to clean myself.
I had fun riding my bike around in this, some places did smell incalculably disgusting though. I cried in the shower for hours trying to clean myself. LeeroyBrown
  • Score: 0

7:01pm Sat 24 Aug 13

niccioh says...

i wonder how the adventure island is coping as they are right at the bottom of the hill.
i wonder how the adventure island is coping as they are right at the bottom of the hill. niccioh
  • Score: 2

7:12pm Sat 24 Aug 13

InTheKnowOk says...

emcee wrote:
Manhole covers are lifing all over the place.
So is the tarmac !!
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Manhole covers are lifing all over the place.[/p][/quote]So is the tarmac !! InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 8

7:17pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

Due to the low height of the air bricks, a lot of properties are now flooded, under the floor boards, causing electrical shorts...
Due to the low height of the air bricks, a lot of properties are now flooded, under the floor boards, causing electrical shorts... Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 2

7:33pm Sat 24 Aug 13

GentleGiant says...

Hope the Echo are paying for these photos!
Hope the Echo are paying for these photos! GentleGiant
  • Score: 4

7:34pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Alice in Her Own Land :P says...

Fallguy9999 wrote:
Its a bit wet
You ain't kidding!
[quote][p][bold]Fallguy9999[/bold] wrote: Its a bit wet[/p][/quote]You ain't kidding! Alice in Her Own Land :P
  • Score: 0

7:38pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Alice in Her Own Land :P says...

the citizen wrote:
I blame the Airport !
The airport is one bit of land that won't be built on! The air field will have done it's bit by soaking up its share of the rain.
[quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: I blame the Airport ![/p][/quote]The airport is one bit of land that won't be built on! The air field will have done it's bit by soaking up its share of the rain. Alice in Her Own Land :P
  • Score: 11

7:46pm Sat 24 Aug 13

QuiteBored says...

Prittlewell is on the GREATER ANGLIA Line not c2c.
Prittlewell is on the GREATER ANGLIA Line not c2c. QuiteBored
  • Score: 15

7:58pm Sat 24 Aug 13

jayman says...

population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading

.schools
.hospitals
.police stations
.fire stations
.transport networks

or

drains, sewers and pumps...
population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading .schools .hospitals .police stations .fire stations .transport networks or drains, sewers and pumps... jayman
  • Score: 11

8:00pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

More on the way....
More on the way.... Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 0

8:07pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Alice in Her Own Land :P says...

jayman wrote:
population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading

.schools
.hospitals
.police stations
.fire stations
.transport networks

or

drains, sewers and pumps...
More reservoirs are what's needed!
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading .schools .hospitals .police stations .fire stations .transport networks or drains, sewers and pumps...[/p][/quote]More reservoirs are what's needed! Alice in Her Own Land :P
  • Score: 7

8:07pm Sat 24 Aug 13

pb1212 says...

anyone know what gunners park is like? or whats left of it
anyone know what gunners park is like? or whats left of it pb1212
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Southend Andy says...

jayman wrote:
population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading

.schools
.hospitals
.police stations
.fire stations
.transport networks

or

drains, sewers and pumps...
But at least the airport is expanding.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading .schools .hospitals .police stations .fire stations .transport networks or drains, sewers and pumps...[/p][/quote]But at least the airport is expanding. Southend Andy
  • Score: 0

8:15pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

BEGINNING OF THE END.................
..
BEGINNING OF THE END................. .. Ineverknewthat
  • Score: -4

8:18pm Sat 24 Aug 13

jayman says...

Southend Andy wrote:
jayman wrote:
population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading

.schools
.hospitals
.police stations
.fire stations
.transport networks

or

drains, sewers and pumps...
But at least the airport is expanding.
until they use aircraft engines to blow rain clouds away, I can see no point in what you have written or no relevance whatsoever in connection to the above story..
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading .schools .hospitals .police stations .fire stations .transport networks or drains, sewers and pumps...[/p][/quote]But at least the airport is expanding.[/p][/quote]until they use aircraft engines to blow rain clouds away, I can see no point in what you have written or no relevance whatsoever in connection to the above story.. jayman
  • Score: -16

8:20pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Howard Cháse says...

with any luck it'll wash all the dog crap off the roads/pavement
with any luck it'll wash all the dog crap off the roads/pavement Howard Cháse
  • Score: 25

8:26pm Sat 24 Aug 13

andyh says...

Howard Cháse wrote:
no-one had to be rescued from Buttsbury Wash yet?
Or Watery Lane?
[quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: no-one had to be rescued from Buttsbury Wash yet?[/p][/quote]Or Watery Lane? andyh
  • Score: 0

8:30pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

andyh wrote:
Howard Cháse wrote:
no-one had to be rescued from Buttsbury Wash yet?
Or Watery Lane?
They aint been found yet...........
[quote][p][bold]andyh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: no-one had to be rescued from Buttsbury Wash yet?[/p][/quote]Or Watery Lane?[/p][/quote]They aint been found yet........... Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 4

8:34pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Alice in Her Own Land :P says...

jayman wrote:
population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading

.schools
.hospitals
.police stations
.fire stations
.transport networks

or

drains, sewers and pumps...
More reservoirs are what's needed!
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading .schools .hospitals .police stations .fire stations .transport networks or drains, sewers and pumps...[/p][/quote]More reservoirs are what's needed! Alice in Her Own Land :P
  • Score: -3

8:38pm Sat 24 Aug 13

emcee says...

Considering most of this floodwater is from overflowing drains (opposed to overflowing rivers or seawater breaches), I am surprised anyone would want to go anywhere near it. There have even been sightings of human excrement and lumps of fat exiting the manholes. That is probably why it stinks so much. YUK.
Considering most of this floodwater is from overflowing drains (opposed to overflowing rivers or seawater breaches), I am surprised anyone would want to go anywhere near it. There have even been sightings of human excrement and lumps of fat exiting the manholes. That is probably why it stinks so much. YUK. emcee
  • Score: 16

8:42pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Joe Wildman-Clark says...

jayman wrote:
Southend Andy wrote:
jayman wrote:
population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading

.schools
.hospitals
.police stations
.fire stations
.transport networks

or

drains, sewers and pumps...
But at least the airport is expanding.
until they use aircraft engines to blow rain clouds away, I can see no point in what you have written or no relevance whatsoever in connection to the above story..
Jayman: SBC are NOT responsible for the Sewer system they are the responsibility of the sewerage companies/water companies, public sewers are the main part of the waste water system and can be found under roads or public open spaces, house holders or land lords are responsible for the part normally from your front gate to your toilet, so just to inform you SBC have no responsibility for the sewage network of Southend.

They can neither order the building of Fire Stations, Police Stations or Hospitals these are built by and controlled by the relevant operating authority who will only submit planning applications as and when they feel such facilities are required as new build or for upgrading.

I trust that you will understand this and will correct yourself.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading .schools .hospitals .police stations .fire stations .transport networks or drains, sewers and pumps...[/p][/quote]But at least the airport is expanding.[/p][/quote]until they use aircraft engines to blow rain clouds away, I can see no point in what you have written or no relevance whatsoever in connection to the above story..[/p][/quote]Jayman: SBC are NOT responsible for the Sewer system they are the responsibility of the sewerage companies/water companies, public sewers are the main part of the waste water system and can be found under roads or public open spaces, house holders or land lords are responsible for the part normally from your front gate to your toilet, so just to inform you SBC have no responsibility for the sewage network of Southend. They can neither order the building of Fire Stations, Police Stations or Hospitals these are built by and controlled by the relevant operating authority who will only submit planning applications as and when they feel such facilities are required as new build or for upgrading. I trust that you will understand this and will correct yourself. Joe Wildman-Clark
  • Score: 6

8:59pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Joe Wildman-Clark says...

JAYMAN:

Why did you not respond to my comment on the story relating to Southend Airport being voted best in the country that went live on this website on Saturday 17th August 2013

After you commented that you felt the survey was not a large enough number of people taking part I commented at 1:08pm on Sunday 18th August 2013 that a protest group had conducted a survey of just 101 adults and that because 49 people opposed the expansion which equates to 61.25% the group (anti airport so not independent) decided that this meant the majority of people living in the whole of Southend West were against the airport.

Surely going by your logic that the truly independent survey carried out by Which? was invalid then surely the one carried out by the group apposed to the airport must also be floored due to the low number of people surveyed and the fact that the survey was not carried out by an independent group.
JAYMAN: Why did you not respond to my comment on the story relating to Southend Airport being voted best in the country that went live on this website on Saturday 17th August 2013 After you commented that you felt the survey was not a large enough number of people taking part I commented at 1:08pm on Sunday 18th August 2013 that a protest group had conducted a survey of just 101 adults and that because 49 people opposed the expansion which equates to 61.25% the group (anti airport so not independent) decided that this meant the majority of people living in the whole of Southend West were against the airport. Surely going by your logic that the truly independent survey carried out by Which? was invalid then surely the one carried out by the group apposed to the airport must also be floored due to the low number of people surveyed and the fact that the survey was not carried out by an independent group. Joe Wildman-Clark
  • Score: -1

9:29pm Sat 24 Aug 13

barneldu says...

C2C would have difficulty in reporting flooding at Prittlewell station. They don't operate that line! Either you're reported the wrong station or got the wrong operator.
C2C would have difficulty in reporting flooding at Prittlewell station. They don't operate that line! Either you're reported the wrong station or got the wrong operator. barneldu
  • Score: 0

9:36pm Sat 24 Aug 13

LeeroyBrown says...

Human excrement and a tampon was seen washed up on the seafront..
Human excrement and a tampon was seen washed up on the seafront.. LeeroyBrown
  • Score: 2

9:40pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

Good for the Garden !
Good for the Garden ! Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 4

9:53pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

emcee wrote:
Considering most of this floodwater is from overflowing drains (opposed to overflowing rivers or seawater breaches), I am surprised anyone would want to go anywhere near it. There have even been sightings of human excrement and lumps of fat exiting the manholes. That is probably why it stinks so much. YUK.
Remember these drains are a hundred years old, they were never designed to cope with the modern day fats, tampons and other waste, thrown down the plug holes, if it was purely rainwater, no problem, however they are working at 30% efficiency at best, and in extreme conditions, such as today, they will fail every time.
Ground soak has been severely minimised due to many a garden having been block paved, shoving more water, into the over full drains, the drains are seldom cleaned, or inspected, another factor in relation to localised flooding.
Strange how a council can consider spending millions, on a fanciful new museum, without ensuring their waste water, can escape...
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Considering most of this floodwater is from overflowing drains (opposed to overflowing rivers or seawater breaches), I am surprised anyone would want to go anywhere near it. There have even been sightings of human excrement and lumps of fat exiting the manholes. That is probably why it stinks so much. YUK.[/p][/quote]Remember these drains are a hundred years old, they were never designed to cope with the modern day fats, tampons and other waste, thrown down the plug holes, if it was purely rainwater, no problem, however they are working at 30% efficiency at best, and in extreme conditions, such as today, they will fail every time. Ground soak has been severely minimised due to many a garden having been block paved, shoving more water, into the over full drains, the drains are seldom cleaned, or inspected, another factor in relation to localised flooding. Strange how a council can consider spending millions, on a fanciful new museum, without ensuring their waste water, can escape... Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 9

10:21pm Sat 24 Aug 13

jayman says...

Joe Wildman-Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
Southend Andy wrote:
jayman wrote:
population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading

.schools
.hospitals
.police stations
.fire stations
.transport networks

or

drains, sewers and pumps...
But at least the airport is expanding.
until they use aircraft engines to blow rain clouds away, I can see no point in what you have written or no relevance whatsoever in connection to the above story..
Jayman: SBC are NOT responsible for the Sewer system they are the responsibility of the sewerage companies/water companies, public sewers are the main part of the waste water system and can be found under roads or public open spaces, house holders or land lords are responsible for the part normally from your front gate to your toilet, so just to inform you SBC have no responsibility for the sewage network of Southend.

They can neither order the building of Fire Stations, Police Stations or Hospitals these are built by and controlled by the relevant operating authority who will only submit planning applications as and when they feel such facilities are required as new build or for upgrading.

I trust that you will understand this and will correct yourself.
did i say SBC. no i said 'no one in authority' that includes water authority ect ect.

i used the other points to highlight the lack of overall infrastructure and assets. Its a common problem.

for example. A 33" trunk, combined sewer was built in the 1950's. it reached its peak capacity in the 1990's in 2013 a raw discharge into the estuary fails to provide any relief during heavy rainfall. The sewer system fails and pressure builds. manhole covers lift and untreated sewage rises onto the street. a local council has recently built a very expensive and poorly thought out shared space scheme. drains where installed along the new road without any consideration as to whether the sewers had the capacity to handle the water that was being diverted into them. the previous storm drainage system from the former road discharged rain water onto the beach. It has now been diverted into the main sewerage system..

Southend council do work with Anglian water. Its always worth remembering that Anglian water are run for a profit. Here is a bit of background on Southend councils inability to understand the concepts of 'capacity' 'volume' and 'use'

http://essexrivers.o
rg/tag/pollution/ its all very well diverting loads of stuff into a sewer. Was the sewer designed to handle the volume of waste water?
[quote][p][bold]Joe Wildman-Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: population increases in Southend. no one in authority considers the idea of building more/upgrading .schools .hospitals .police stations .fire stations .transport networks or drains, sewers and pumps...[/p][/quote]But at least the airport is expanding.[/p][/quote]until they use aircraft engines to blow rain clouds away, I can see no point in what you have written or no relevance whatsoever in connection to the above story..[/p][/quote]Jayman: SBC are NOT responsible for the Sewer system they are the responsibility of the sewerage companies/water companies, public sewers are the main part of the waste water system and can be found under roads or public open spaces, house holders or land lords are responsible for the part normally from your front gate to your toilet, so just to inform you SBC have no responsibility for the sewage network of Southend. They can neither order the building of Fire Stations, Police Stations or Hospitals these are built by and controlled by the relevant operating authority who will only submit planning applications as and when they feel such facilities are required as new build or for upgrading. I trust that you will understand this and will correct yourself.[/p][/quote]did i say SBC. no i said 'no one in authority' that includes water authority ect ect. i used the other points to highlight the lack of overall infrastructure and assets. Its a common problem. for example. A 33" trunk, combined sewer was built in the 1950's. it reached its peak capacity in the 1990's in 2013 a raw discharge into the estuary fails to provide any relief during heavy rainfall. The sewer system fails and pressure builds. manhole covers lift and untreated sewage rises onto the street. a local council has recently built a very expensive and poorly thought out shared space scheme. drains where installed along the new road without any consideration as to whether the sewers had the capacity to handle the water that was being diverted into them. the previous storm drainage system from the former road discharged rain water onto the beach. It has now been diverted into the main sewerage system.. Southend council do work with Anglian water. Its always worth remembering that Anglian water are run for a profit. Here is a bit of background on Southend councils inability to understand the concepts of 'capacity' 'volume' and 'use' http://essexrivers.o rg/tag/pollution/ its all very well diverting loads of stuff into a sewer. Was the sewer designed to handle the volume of waste water? jayman
  • Score: 3

10:25pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

With a bit of jibbing, (and a smattering of luck) I managed to 'rescue' my daughter from Canvey (in quite atrocious conditions) this afternoon with a round journey lasting two and a half hours.
With a bit of jibbing, (and a smattering of luck) I managed to 'rescue' my daughter from Canvey (in quite atrocious conditions) this afternoon with a round journey lasting two and a half hours. Soouthchurch59
  • Score: 0

10:27pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Hathi67 says...

And we will still have a hose pipe ban....
And we will still have a hose pipe ban.... Hathi67
  • Score: 5

10:51pm Sat 24 Aug 13

younglocal says...

Old sewerage systems aren't the only problem. The ground was bone dry, highly likely hydrophobic and in that situation it won't soak up heavy rain. It will run off. Concrete and block paving may not have made much difference. In fact, if they were properly built with a soakaway for drainage instead of going straight into the surface water system then they may have helped.
Old sewerage systems aren't the only problem. The ground was bone dry, highly likely hydrophobic and in that situation it won't soak up heavy rain. It will run off. Concrete and block paving may not have made much difference. In fact, if they were properly built with a soakaway for drainage instead of going straight into the surface water system then they may have helped. younglocal
  • Score: 7

10:56pm Sat 24 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

I hear a lot of properties have been damaged, due to 4x4 idiots driving at speed through flood water for kicks...........
I hear a lot of properties have been damaged, due to 4x4 idiots driving at speed through flood water for kicks........... Ineverknewthat
  • Score: 9

10:58pm Sat 24 Aug 13

SaveOurStanford says...

Southend council take note this what i call Karma for cancelling the 2013 air show. I still went and didn't spend a penny in the town as my contribution i still got on the pier for free cos i aint paying the councils any more LOL
Southend council take note this what i call Karma for cancelling the 2013 air show. I still went and didn't spend a penny in the town as my contribution i still got on the pier for free cos i aint paying the councils any more LOL SaveOurStanford
  • Score: -13

12:00am Sun 25 Aug 13

EastStBoy says...

Hathi67 wrote:
And we will still have a hose pipe ban....
Incorrect, this part of the country never had a hosepipe ban this year.
[quote][p][bold]Hathi67[/bold] wrote: And we will still have a hose pipe ban....[/p][/quote]Incorrect, this part of the country never had a hosepipe ban this year. EastStBoy
  • Score: 0

3:36am Sun 25 Aug 13

hayste says...

Drivers at a certain fast food delivery company on canvey were threatened in no uncertain terms that if they didnt drive through the floods they would potentially lose their jobs.... bypassing a drivers safety for money is out of order if you ask me
Drivers at a certain fast food delivery company on canvey were threatened in no uncertain terms that if they didnt drive through the floods they would potentially lose their jobs.... bypassing a drivers safety for money is out of order if you ask me hayste
  • Score: 17

9:28am Sun 25 Aug 13

exAkela says...

Has anyone spared a thought for the farmers, not all of them have got their harvest in yet.
Has anyone spared a thought for the farmers, not all of them have got their harvest in yet. exAkela
  • Score: 10

10:16am Sun 25 Aug 13

wickford-warrior says...

My duck loves it !!!
My duck loves it !!! wickford-warrior
  • Score: 2

10:40am Sun 25 Aug 13

Rochford Rob says...

LeeroyBrown wrote:
Human excrement and a tampon was seen washed up on the seafront..
I think that was last week.

Flooding and devastation have caused thousands of Pounds worth of improvements to the 'Golden Mile'

Some morons are paddling in it whilst other motorised morons and getting stuck in it.
[quote][p][bold]LeeroyBrown[/bold] wrote: Human excrement and a tampon was seen washed up on the seafront..[/p][/quote]I think that was last week. Flooding and devastation have caused thousands of Pounds worth of improvements to the 'Golden Mile' Some morons are paddling in it whilst other motorised morons and getting stuck in it. Rochford Rob
  • Score: 0

1:36pm Sun 25 Aug 13

Ineverknewthat says...

exAkela wrote:
Has anyone spared a thought for the farmers, not all of them have got their harvest in yet.
Not yet, but when I get a spare thought, I'll use it for my self....
[quote][p][bold]exAkela[/bold] wrote: Has anyone spared a thought for the farmers, not all of them have got their harvest in yet.[/p][/quote]Not yet, but when I get a spare thought, I'll use it for my self.... Ineverknewthat
  • Score: -6

4:34pm Sun 25 Aug 13

ella_kingsburyx says...

Does anyone know if west hanningfield has been affected by the floods?
Does anyone know if west hanningfield has been affected by the floods? ella_kingsburyx
  • Score: -3

7:13pm Sun 25 Aug 13

iliveinrayleigh says...

If the local authorities cleared the drains with the "gully suckers" as they used to do before "they ran out of money" (questionable?) at least the majority of the water would have drained away properly. Same with the potholes wait until there is a near catastrophe then do something about it & spend twice the amount to put things right. Perhaps the powers that be have never heard of the old saying "a stitch in time saves" !! It sickens me that as rate payers we have to put up with the sheer inability of these local authorities to do a proper job.
If the local authorities cleared the drains with the "gully suckers" as they used to do before "they ran out of money" (questionable?) at least the majority of the water would have drained away properly. Same with the potholes wait until there is a near catastrophe then do something about it & spend twice the amount to put things right. Perhaps the powers that be have never heard of the old saying "a stitch in time saves" !! It sickens me that as rate payers we have to put up with the sheer inability of these local authorities to do a proper job. iliveinrayleigh
  • Score: 9

9:34pm Sun 25 Aug 13

Southend Andy says...

I see the echo have removed the pic of 'victoria ave' shame on you echo publishing pics that were not of our town.
I see the echo have removed the pic of 'victoria ave' shame on you echo publishing pics that were not of our town. Southend Andy
  • Score: 2

10:04am Mon 26 Aug 13

Letmetryagain says...

How many millions of pound should be spent on upgrading the drainage system. For an event which happens maybe once in 50yrs. ?

How much extra are people prepared to pay on their sewage charge ?
How many millions of pound should be spent on upgrading the drainage system. For an event which happens maybe once in 50yrs. ? How much extra are people prepared to pay on their sewage charge ? Letmetryagain
  • Score: 0

11:20am Mon 26 Aug 13

theillusionofreality says...

Over the course of the morning the Service has received dozens of calls with calls continuing to flood in.

hahaha what a great choice of words. ;)
Over the course of the morning the Service has received dozens of calls with calls continuing to flood in. hahaha what a great choice of words. ;) theillusionofreality
  • Score: 2

2:08pm Mon 26 Aug 13

cheska23 says...

My flat still stinking of sewerage!! and has a collection of bugs and creepy crawlies, soaking carpet and walls,completely unhygienic, uninhabitable and a complete hell hole, thanks to the councils "rapid" response and refusal to provide sand bags! ...and we pay council tax for what reason?
My flat still stinking of sewerage!! and has a collection of bugs and creepy crawlies, soaking carpet and walls,completely unhygienic, uninhabitable and a complete hell hole, thanks to the councils "rapid" response and refusal to provide sand bags! ...and we pay council tax for what reason? cheska23
  • Score: 0

6:44pm Mon 26 Aug 13

jayman says...

cheska23 wrote:
My flat still stinking of sewerage!! and has a collection of bugs and creepy crawlies, soaking carpet and walls,completely unhygienic, uninhabitable and a complete hell hole, thanks to the councils "rapid" response and refusal to provide sand bags! ...and we pay council tax for what reason?
Southend foreshore hold quite a few sandbags. I'm surprised they did not dish them out. I would like to believe there was a 'get the council leader down here' type moment . Sadly, I do not believe this occurred. hundreds of thousands (if not more) of damage was done. I hope lessons can be learned from this.

It was not a case of the systems for dealing with such an occurrence failed. It was a case of, there where no systems in place to deal with a situation like this occurring. Corporate complacency?
[quote][p][bold]cheska23[/bold] wrote: My flat still stinking of sewerage!! and has a collection of bugs and creepy crawlies, soaking carpet and walls,completely unhygienic, uninhabitable and a complete hell hole, thanks to the councils "rapid" response and refusal to provide sand bags! ...and we pay council tax for what reason?[/p][/quote]Southend foreshore hold quite a few sandbags. I'm surprised they did not dish them out. I would like to believe there was a 'get the council leader down here' type moment . Sadly, I do not believe this occurred. hundreds of thousands (if not more) of damage was done. I hope lessons can be learned from this. It was not a case of the systems for dealing with such an occurrence failed. It was a case of, there where no systems in place to deal with a situation like this occurring. Corporate complacency? jayman
  • Score: 1

11:13pm Mon 26 Aug 13

Joe Wildman-Clark says...

jayman wrote:
cheska23 wrote:
My flat still stinking of sewerage!! and has a collection of bugs and creepy crawlies, soaking carpet and walls,completely unhygienic, uninhabitable and a complete hell hole, thanks to the councils "rapid" response and refusal to provide sand bags! ...and we pay council tax for what reason?
Southend foreshore hold quite a few sandbags. I'm surprised they did not dish them out. I would like to believe there was a 'get the council leader down here' type moment . Sadly, I do not believe this occurred. hundreds of thousands (if not more) of damage was done. I hope lessons can be learned from this.

It was not a case of the systems for dealing with such an occurrence failed. It was a case of, there where no systems in place to deal with a situation like this occurring. Corporate complacency?
Sandbags could have help slowdown the flood but just look at the height of the water and the area it covered who would you give them too first?

No matter who you gave them too first the person last in line would moan that they were not first, that's why I had a stash of my own, not that I was able to deploy them as I was out...

Poo happens and even more when you comment
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cheska23[/bold] wrote: My flat still stinking of sewerage!! and has a collection of bugs and creepy crawlies, soaking carpet and walls,completely unhygienic, uninhabitable and a complete hell hole, thanks to the councils "rapid" response and refusal to provide sand bags! ...and we pay council tax for what reason?[/p][/quote]Southend foreshore hold quite a few sandbags. I'm surprised they did not dish them out. I would like to believe there was a 'get the council leader down here' type moment . Sadly, I do not believe this occurred. hundreds of thousands (if not more) of damage was done. I hope lessons can be learned from this. It was not a case of the systems for dealing with such an occurrence failed. It was a case of, there where no systems in place to deal with a situation like this occurring. Corporate complacency?[/p][/quote]Sandbags could have help slowdown the flood but just look at the height of the water and the area it covered who would you give them too first? No matter who you gave them too first the person last in line would moan that they were not first, that's why I had a stash of my own, not that I was able to deploy them as I was out... Poo happens and even more when you comment Joe Wildman-Clark
  • Score: 2

12:22am Tue 27 Aug 13

jayman says...

Joe Wildman-Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
cheska23 wrote:
My flat still stinking of sewerage!! and has a collection of bugs and creepy crawlies, soaking carpet and walls,completely unhygienic, uninhabitable and a complete hell hole, thanks to the councils "rapid" response and refusal to provide sand bags! ...and we pay council tax for what reason?
Southend foreshore hold quite a few sandbags. I'm surprised they did not dish them out. I would like to believe there was a 'get the council leader down here' type moment . Sadly, I do not believe this occurred. hundreds of thousands (if not more) of damage was done. I hope lessons can be learned from this.

It was not a case of the systems for dealing with such an occurrence failed. It was a case of, there where no systems in place to deal with a situation like this occurring. Corporate complacency?
Sandbags could have help slowdown the flood but just look at the height of the water and the area it covered who would you give them too first?

No matter who you gave them too first the person last in line would moan that they were not first, that's why I had a stash of my own, not that I was able to deploy them as I was out...

Poo happens and even more when you comment
Your conclusion to the situation of 'do nothing' is so appallingly flawed. I thank the stars that you do not work in emergency management.
[quote][p][bold]Joe Wildman-Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cheska23[/bold] wrote: My flat still stinking of sewerage!! and has a collection of bugs and creepy crawlies, soaking carpet and walls,completely unhygienic, uninhabitable and a complete hell hole, thanks to the councils "rapid" response and refusal to provide sand bags! ...and we pay council tax for what reason?[/p][/quote]Southend foreshore hold quite a few sandbags. I'm surprised they did not dish them out. I would like to believe there was a 'get the council leader down here' type moment . Sadly, I do not believe this occurred. hundreds of thousands (if not more) of damage was done. I hope lessons can be learned from this. It was not a case of the systems for dealing with such an occurrence failed. It was a case of, there where no systems in place to deal with a situation like this occurring. Corporate complacency?[/p][/quote]Sandbags could have help slowdown the flood but just look at the height of the water and the area it covered who would you give them too first? No matter who you gave them too first the person last in line would moan that they were not first, that's why I had a stash of my own, not that I was able to deploy them as I was out... Poo happens and even more when you comment[/p][/quote]Your conclusion to the situation of 'do nothing' is so appallingly flawed. I thank the stars that you do not work in emergency management. jayman
  • Score: -4

9:34am Tue 27 Aug 13

cheska23 says...

The little cutting remark about your thankfulness for not working in emergency management, is that necessary?? I do understand that our street was not the only one effected and there was hundreds of call and emergency's that were being dealt with, I did not say the authorities did nothing. I would however like to add that I called the council and fire brigade and police and flood line while the water was at my lean to and entering the house, the call with the council rep first asked me if I was a council tenant, I replied that I was not to which the gentleman on the phone told me "the council would not be providing sand bags" or any assistance really, I assume that if I was a council tenant that the response would have been different? The water then entered my house and continued over the course of the next few hours. I could have steamed the flow with sand bags and they do make an enormous difference!! I do not have a car and live on my own with my dog, so I couldn't drive anywhere to get any. I used to live in the Snowdon Valleys where flooding did happen and we were all supplied with sand bags in an event like this. Myself nor my neighbours have seen one council official or water board officer even visit our street that was hit extremely hard. Not moaning, just a disappointed citizen reporting my experience. As for &quotpoo happens I am also aware of this, I was a nurse in North Middlesex Hospital emergency room for 8 years and dealt with the effects of "poo happening" every day.
The little cutting remark about your thankfulness for not working in emergency management, is that necessary?? I do understand that our street was not the only one effected and there was hundreds of call and emergency's that were being dealt with, I did not say the authorities did nothing. I would however like to add that I called the council and fire brigade and police and flood line while the water was at my lean to and entering the house, the call with the council rep first asked me if I was a council tenant, I replied that I was not to which the gentleman on the phone told me "the council would not be providing sand bags" or any assistance really, I assume that if I was a council tenant that the response would have been different? The water then entered my house and continued over the course of the next few hours. I could have steamed the flow with sand bags and they do make an enormous difference!! I do not have a car and live on my own with my dog, so I couldn't drive anywhere to get any. I used to live in the Snowdon Valleys where flooding did happen and we were all supplied with sand bags in an event like this. Myself nor my neighbours have seen one council official or water board officer even visit our street that was hit extremely hard. Not moaning, just a disappointed citizen reporting my experience. As for "poo happens I am also aware of this, I was a nurse in North Middlesex Hospital emergency room for 8 years and dealt with the effects of "poo happening" every day. cheska23
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Wed 28 Aug 13

emcee says...

cheska23 wrote:
The little cutting remark about your thankfulness for not working in emergency management, is that necessary?? I do understand that our street was not the only one effected and there was hundreds of call and emergency's that were being dealt with, I did not say the authorities did nothing. I would however like to add that I called the council and fire brigade and police and flood line while the water was at my lean to and entering the house, the call with the council rep first asked me if I was a council tenant, I replied that I was not to which the gentleman on the phone told me "the council would not be providing sand bags" or any assistance really, I assume that if I was a council tenant that the response would have been different? The water then entered my house and continued over the course of the next few hours. I could have steamed the flow with sand bags and they do make an enormous difference!! I do not have a car and live on my own with my dog, so I couldn't drive anywhere to get any. I used to live in the Snowdon Valleys where flooding did happen and we were all supplied with sand bags in an event like this. Myself nor my neighbours have seen one council official or water board officer even visit our street that was hit extremely hard. Not moaning, just a disappointed citizen reporting my experience. As for "poo happens I am also aware of this, I was a nurse in North Middlesex Hospital emergency room for 8 years and dealt with the effects of "poo happening" every day.
With all due respect, the council would only have had an obligation to protect their own properties in the first instance, hence they would only help council tenants. Maybe the onus was on you to protect your own property. I understand you may not have known you was going to be a victim of flooding but now you have experienced this situation maybe you should stockpile your own sandbags ready for next time. Mark my words, there will very likely be a next time. Maybe not this year or next but the odds of being a victim of flooding seem to be increasing by the year.
[quote][p][bold]cheska23[/bold] wrote: The little cutting remark about your thankfulness for not working in emergency management, is that necessary?? I do understand that our street was not the only one effected and there was hundreds of call and emergency's that were being dealt with, I did not say the authorities did nothing. I would however like to add that I called the council and fire brigade and police and flood line while the water was at my lean to and entering the house, the call with the council rep first asked me if I was a council tenant, I replied that I was not to which the gentleman on the phone told me "the council would not be providing sand bags" or any assistance really, I assume that if I was a council tenant that the response would have been different? The water then entered my house and continued over the course of the next few hours. I could have steamed the flow with sand bags and they do make an enormous difference!! I do not have a car and live on my own with my dog, so I couldn't drive anywhere to get any. I used to live in the Snowdon Valleys where flooding did happen and we were all supplied with sand bags in an event like this. Myself nor my neighbours have seen one council official or water board officer even visit our street that was hit extremely hard. Not moaning, just a disappointed citizen reporting my experience. As for "poo happens I am also aware of this, I was a nurse in North Middlesex Hospital emergency room for 8 years and dealt with the effects of "poo happening" every day.[/p][/quote]With all due respect, the council would only have had an obligation to protect their own properties in the first instance, hence they would only help council tenants. Maybe the onus was on you to protect your own property. I understand you may not have known you was going to be a victim of flooding but now you have experienced this situation maybe you should stockpile your own sandbags ready for next time. Mark my words, there will very likely be a next time. Maybe not this year or next but the odds of being a victim of flooding seem to be increasing by the year. emcee
  • Score: 2

5:11pm Thu 29 Aug 13

wisewoman1945 says...

Does anyone know if North Road got hit.?
Does anyone know if North Road got hit.? wisewoman1945
  • Score: 0

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