Drug needles and urine soaked stairwells in Southend tower block of doom

Room with a view: Chiltern flats

Room with a view: Chiltern flats

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TENANTS living in Southend’s town centre tower blocks say stairwells are no-go areas at night because homeless people are using them to inject drugs and crash out.

Drug addicts and alcoholics get into the four 15-storey flats blocks on the Queensway estate at night, before getting drunk and sleeping it off on stairwells and landings.

Blood, used syringes, empty beer cans, cigarette butts and even urine are regularly found by cleaners in the morning.

Basildon Recorder:

Dead of night: Drug users enter tower blocks in the early hours

Inside Malvern flats, our reporter found a homeless man on the stairwell of the 13th floor who appeared to have injected heroin.

It is a regular sight, according to residents, who are demanding 24-hour security to keep vagrants out.

Residents say the problems are making their lives a misery in the Quantock, Chiltern, Malvern and Pennine blocks, with noisy antisocial behaviour and urinesoaked stairwells.

The Southend Council tenants claim the problems have become so bad, they are scared to use the stairs and landings after dark.

Basildon Recorder:

Discarded: used syringe on stairwell

Rose Chapman, 81, who lives at Quantock, said: “It is terrible – you would not go up the stairs at night.

“They use the landing on the 15th floor and the stairwells to drink, take drugs and then crash in sleeping bags. You can hear the noise when they are up there shouting and drunk.

“The only way to stop this is to have security on the door night and day, because even if the locks did all work, they hang around until someone comes out and then slip in.”

A councillor has pledged to take action after an Echo reporter was able to get into the tower blocks due to faulty locks.

Basildon Recorder: Ian Gilbert – believes a ban on alcohol would help

Shocked: Ian Gilbert

Ian Gilbert, Labour Victoria ward councillor, who has campaigned for improvements on the estate, said: “I am shocked at the state of the entry system.

“You would expect the occasional fault, but to be able to get into all four is inexcusable. I will take this up with South Essex Homes.”

 

Basildon Recorder:

Rough sleeper: sleeping bag stashed for next night?

Itcomes a week after the Echo revealed South Essex Homes, which manages the blocks for Southend Council, had allowed tenants to leave Quantock flats without handing back 371 active key fobs. They have since been disabled and investigations into outstanding key fobs are being carried out.

 

Basildon Recorder:

View from the top: Inside Malvern flats

The council and South Essex Homes insist they are tackling the problem of homeless people getting into the flats.

In a joint statement, they said: “South Essex Homes and council officers are working closely with Essex Police to address the issues of rough sleepers in Southend and this includes specifically the four town centre blocks. This is an ongoing initiative.

“The security of all high-rise blocks has always featured highly for both South Essex Homes and the council, and we have worked closely with residents from the whole community through the Community Circle initiative.

“This led to the installation of CCTV in all lifts in the four blocks last year. Residents have commented at the improvement this has bought about.”

Basildon Recorder:

High rise living: Chiltern flats

An Echo reporter who investigated the tower blocks found a homeless man who had spent the night on the stairwell of Malvern Flats.

 

He was seen at 6.15am sitting on stairs near a small pool of blood.

The man, who appeared to be in his forties, said he was there because he has homeless.

He said: “I have been sitting here freezing since 2am. I’m homeless after
my bird kicked me out. I tried the Harp hostel, but was too late to get in.

This was the only place I could go.”

Basildon Recorder:

Night on the tiles: left strong cider can

Basildon Recorder:

Caught short: Pools of urine on stairwells

The man disappeared, leaving behind a used syringe. On the next flight of stairs there were a number of pools of urine and more blood spots.

A buzzer system on the entrances to each block is supposed to prevent all but registered occupants getting in.

Basildon Recorder:

Easy access: our reporter finds Quantock door open 

However, our reporter got in to all four unchallenged, as there was a door that could be opened on the ground floor at either the front or back in each case, and was even helped by staff working on the blocks.

Cleaning staff let our reporter in the front entrance of one block despite him having no fob.

The same day he also found the front door to Quantock flats open.

Inside, there was evidence of drinking, drug taking and sleeping in communal areas from the night before.

In the stairwell next to the 15th floor there was a sleeping bag tucked over a railing.

Basildon Recorder:

King size: dropped cigarette paper

There were several pools of urine on the stairs and one of the landings as well as cigarette butts.

Evidence of possible cannabis smoking could also be seen.

When asked if 24-hour security across the blocks to control entry was a
possibility, the council and South Essex Homes refused to comment.

A South Essex Homes spokesman said: “The highrise blocks receive a seven
days a week service from South Essex Homes caretaking team and one of
the reasons for this is to ensure that the blocks are cleaned every morning.

“Any suspected drug use and paraphernalia are responded to and removed as a matter of urgency.”

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6:50am Tue 4 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

They've gotto go somewhere, seems fitting really, all druggies together.
They've gotto go somewhere, seems fitting really, all druggies together. You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: -39

7:05am Tue 4 Feb 14

whateverhappened says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
They've gotto go somewhere, seems fitting really, all druggies together.
yeah like Rose Chapman, 81,
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: They've gotto go somewhere, seems fitting really, all druggies together.[/p][/quote]yeah like Rose Chapman, 81, whateverhappened
  • Score: 47

7:26am Tue 4 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

whateverhappened wrote:
You'dfeelbetterforkn

owingthat
wrote:
They've gotto go somewhere, seems fitting really, all druggies together.
yeah like Rose Chapman, 81,
The council have enjoyed not doing a single thing to help, putting all the bad apples in one basket, not facing the housing crisis, not offering realistic help to addicts, it's a social housing problem which has grown and grown, with the wonderous design of such blocks, next they will be putting door staff at the entrances, like they have at Basildon's Brook house..
[quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: They've gotto go somewhere, seems fitting really, all druggies together.[/p][/quote]yeah like Rose Chapman, 81,[/p][/quote]The council have enjoyed not doing a single thing to help, putting all the bad apples in one basket, not facing the housing crisis, not offering realistic help to addicts, it's a social housing problem which has grown and grown, with the wonderous design of such blocks, next they will be putting door staff at the entrances, like they have at Basildon's Brook house.. You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: 21

7:28am Tue 4 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

give them 24 hour security, residents deserve to have the place cleaned up from all this maybe it could be turned around into a more decent place, SEH's are responsible for it, maybe move some of their managers in there and see how they like it.
give them 24 hour security, residents deserve to have the place cleaned up from all this maybe it could be turned around into a more decent place, SEH's are responsible for it, maybe move some of their managers in there and see how they like it. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 53

7:43am Tue 4 Feb 14

Thames Gateway says...

Perhaps this could go into the next 'City of Culture' bid as a site of special cuktural interest?
Perhaps this could go into the next 'City of Culture' bid as a site of special cuktural interest? Thames Gateway
  • Score: 7

7:44am Tue 4 Feb 14

Thames Gateway says...

Or even 'cultural'.
Or even 'cultural'. Thames Gateway
  • Score: 12

8:05am Tue 4 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

these eyesores need leveling.

drug test the residents. those without class a in their system should be rehoused. all the rest, export to russian gulags for some proper rehab..
these eyesores need leveling. drug test the residents. those without class a in their system should be rehoused. all the rest, export to russian gulags for some proper rehab.. profondo asbo
  • Score: 23

8:11am Tue 4 Feb 14

pembury53 says...

I love the strategically placed 'strong cider can' and 'king size paper' ..... great stuff !
I love the strategically placed 'strong cider can' and 'king size paper' ..... great stuff ! pembury53
  • Score: 7

8:19am Tue 4 Feb 14

Alice in Her Own Land :P says...

There but by the grace of God go I .... I'm fortunate enough not to have to live in one of these tower blocks and would hate having the feeling of being unsafe in my own home, never mind the not knowing where to tread at the bottom of the stairs, or the what must be vile smell there.
There but by the grace of God go I .... I'm fortunate enough not to have to live in one of these tower blocks and would hate having the feeling of being unsafe in my own home, never mind the not knowing where to tread at the bottom of the stairs, or the what must be vile smell there. Alice in Her Own Land :P
  • Score: 39

9:08am Tue 4 Feb 14

Carley28 says...

All druggys in same building then. I reckon they should stop spending money on poxy roundabouts spending millions too upgrade the Vic plaza it didn't need doing made it worse. When instead they could of built new homes. Shove all the druggys and alchys in them 4 flats no one will be homeless and all the scum bags will b in there together. Dread too think if a child picks up them needles. Southend council are Arseholes waste money on stuff that don't need it
All druggys in same building then. I reckon they should stop spending money on poxy roundabouts spending millions too upgrade the Vic plaza it didn't need doing made it worse. When instead they could of built new homes. Shove all the druggys and alchys in them 4 flats no one will be homeless and all the scum bags will b in there together. Dread too think if a child picks up them needles. Southend council are Arseholes waste money on stuff that don't need it Carley28
  • Score: 24

9:16am Tue 4 Feb 14

Duck Egg says...

No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.
No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions. Duck Egg
  • Score: -26

9:19am Tue 4 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

Duck Egg wrote:
No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.
Like a lot of Flat dwellers, so Right
[quote][p][bold]Duck Egg[/bold] wrote: No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.[/p][/quote]Like a lot of Flat dwellers, so Right You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: -22

9:24am Tue 4 Feb 14

Kim Gandy says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
whateverhappened wrote:
You'dfeelbetterforkn


owingthat
wrote:
They've gotto go somewhere, seems fitting really, all druggies together.
yeah like Rose Chapman, 81,
The council have enjoyed not doing a single thing to help, putting all the bad apples in one basket, not facing the housing crisis, not offering realistic help to addicts, it's a social housing problem which has grown and grown, with the wonderous design of such blocks, next they will be putting door staff at the entrances, like they have at Basildon's Brook house..
Everyone has hardships in life, everyone goes through crises. If I'd resorted to drugs every time I had been through hell in my life I probably wouldn't be here.

How typical of you to justify such activities yet condemn people who pay council tax and expect their roads to be cleared of water.

Oh and what's with the Rose Chapman, 81 remark? More ageism.

Coming from somebody who accuses me of discriminating, you don't do such a bad job of it yourself.
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: They've gotto go somewhere, seems fitting really, all druggies together.[/p][/quote]yeah like Rose Chapman, 81,[/p][/quote]The council have enjoyed not doing a single thing to help, putting all the bad apples in one basket, not facing the housing crisis, not offering realistic help to addicts, it's a social housing problem which has grown and grown, with the wonderous design of such blocks, next they will be putting door staff at the entrances, like they have at Basildon's Brook house..[/p][/quote]Everyone has hardships in life, everyone goes through crises. If I'd resorted to drugs every time I had been through hell in my life I probably wouldn't be here. How typical of you to justify such activities yet condemn people who pay council tax and expect their roads to be cleared of water. Oh and what's with the Rose Chapman, 81 remark? More ageism. Coming from somebody who accuses me of discriminating, you don't do such a bad job of it yourself. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -11

9:24am Tue 4 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Duck Egg wrote:
No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.
Agreed no sympathy for the druggies/pi$$heeds squatting in the stairwells, thats why security needs to be moved in instantly....but what about the people that have to live there..? surely they should not have to endure this all the time, and yes the buildings are eyesores blots on the landscape...but they are there and every effort should be made to make the place better for residents who happen to live there.
[quote][p][bold]Duck Egg[/bold] wrote: No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.[/p][/quote]Agreed no sympathy for the druggies/pi$$heeds squatting in the stairwells, thats why security needs to be moved in instantly....but what about the people that have to live there..? surely they should not have to endure this all the time, and yes the buildings are eyesores blots on the landscape...but they are there and every effort should be made to make the place better for residents who happen to live there. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 16

9:25am Tue 4 Feb 14

Kim Gandy says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
Duck Egg wrote:
No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.
Like a lot of Flat dwellers, so Right
Flat dweller? Are all "flat dwellers" druggies in your book then?
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Duck Egg[/bold] wrote: No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.[/p][/quote]Like a lot of Flat dwellers, so Right[/p][/quote]Flat dweller? Are all "flat dwellers" druggies in your book then? Kim Gandy
  • Score: 22

9:28am Tue 4 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

.....and notice how the reporter is opening the door with only the tips of 2 fingers, the thought going through his head was he didn't want to grab the whole handle in a full grasp who knows what crap is on them handles.
.....and notice how the reporter is opening the door with only the tips of 2 fingers, the thought going through his head was he didn't want to grab the whole handle in a full grasp who knows what crap is on them handles. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 17

9:35am Tue 4 Feb 14

TheaWells says...

Why do 'we' have such a big problem?
How do we remedy this?
These are the questions that should be asked by the Echo, not turning it's semi detached full time job nose up at those crawling up p*ss soaked stairs to get a hit of heroin before collapsing. No human is born with 'that' as a goal in life.
The flats in question are and always have been since I was a child a place for crime, a place the Police turn a blind eye to as it's better to have them all in once place than running about in Town where 'real life' might upset our poor twinkly light tourists.

I agree that perhaps the buildings should have a change of use, get the drug free out (especially poor Rose) and convert the buildings into rehab centres. One for drugs, one for booze and one as a halfway house where residents aspire to getting a job and their own home once they are addiction free.

What other option is there? Get guards that stop the homeless and addicted from entering? That just transfers a contained 'problem' to somewhere else... like the Church yard in St Helens road that everyone got their knickers in a twist about.

The sad thing is 'we' have a HUGE homeless and addiction problem in Southend that keeps being pushed from one building to another.

Instead of writing an article full of turned up nose disgust and gasps at a cigarette paper (really??) why doesn't the Echo ask at the end of the article... WHAT ARE THE COUNCIL GOING TO DO TO CORRECT THIS!!!!??


What ARE they going to do?
Why do 'we' have such a big problem? How do we remedy this? These are the questions that should be asked by the Echo, not turning it's semi detached full time job nose up at those crawling up p*ss soaked stairs to get a hit of heroin before collapsing. No human is born with 'that' as a goal in life. The flats in question are and always have been since I was a child a place for crime, a place the Police turn a blind eye to as it's better to have them all in once place than running about in Town where 'real life' might upset our poor twinkly light tourists. I agree that perhaps the buildings should have a change of use, get the drug free out (especially poor Rose) and convert the buildings into rehab centres. One for drugs, one for booze and one as a halfway house where residents aspire to getting a job and their own home once they are addiction free. What other option is there? Get guards that stop the homeless and addicted from entering? That just transfers a contained 'problem' to somewhere else... like the Church yard in St Helens road that everyone got their knickers in a twist about. The sad thing is 'we' have a HUGE homeless and addiction problem in Southend that keeps being pushed from one building to another. Instead of writing an article full of turned up nose disgust and gasps at a cigarette paper (really??) why doesn't the Echo ask at the end of the article... WHAT ARE THE COUNCIL GOING TO DO TO CORRECT THIS!!!!?? What ARE they going to do? TheaWells
  • Score: 42

10:28am Tue 4 Feb 14

RochfordRob says...

Strange, the tower blocks overlooking the casino in Westcliff change hands for hundreds of thousands of pounds each. I wonder why that is?
Strange, the tower blocks overlooking the casino in Westcliff change hands for hundreds of thousands of pounds each. I wonder why that is? RochfordRob
  • Score: 6

10:46am Tue 4 Feb 14

heartbeat says...

Carley28 wrote:
All druggys in same building then. I reckon they should stop spending money on poxy roundabouts spending millions too upgrade the Vic plaza it didn't need doing made it worse. When instead they could of built new homes. Shove all the druggys and alchys in them 4 flats no one will be homeless and all the scum bags will b in there together. Dread too think if a child picks up them needles. Southend council are Arseholes waste money on stuff that don't need it
Unfortunately a lot of the children who are forced to grow up in those tower blocks, though no fault of their own, will see this kind of environment and the unwillingness of anyone to help change it as "normal". They can pick up the message that they are worthless from Day 1. And so it goes on. But hey, let's keep sweeping it under the carpet - how many times have I read about these kind of problems through the years. Nothing changes, it definitely isn't "news"!
[quote][p][bold]Carley28[/bold] wrote: All druggys in same building then. I reckon they should stop spending money on poxy roundabouts spending millions too upgrade the Vic plaza it didn't need doing made it worse. When instead they could of built new homes. Shove all the druggys and alchys in them 4 flats no one will be homeless and all the scum bags will b in there together. Dread too think if a child picks up them needles. Southend council are Arseholes waste money on stuff that don't need it[/p][/quote]Unfortunately a lot of the children who are forced to grow up in those tower blocks, though no fault of their own, will see this kind of environment and the unwillingness of anyone to help change it as "normal". They can pick up the message that they are worthless from Day 1. And so it goes on. But hey, let's keep sweeping it under the carpet - how many times have I read about these kind of problems through the years. Nothing changes, it definitely isn't "news"! heartbeat
  • Score: 18

11:02am Tue 4 Feb 14

TheaWells says...

RochfordRob wrote:
Strange, the tower blocks overlooking the casino in Westcliff change hands for hundreds of thousands of pounds each. I wonder why that is?
They are privately owned so a different category all together.

The trouble with the flats in question is that a lot of the residents are also addicts, so making sure the entrance is shut securely when you get in and all you can think about is getting upstairs to get a 'hit' takes second place.
Also a few of the flats contain 'dealers' who are more than happy to let 'customers' into the flats, once they have been paid for their goods they don't care if the 'customer' leaves and shuts to door securely or crawls up three flights of stairs to collapse in a corner to get his hit.

It IS disgusting, it is vile, it's embarrassing and a place no 'decent' human wants to be but saying "Urgh scum" and "Chuck them out" wont cure the problem this town is spiralling towards.

'We' as a community are very good at shuddering and wanting the nasty elements of life moved out of our view but that is ALL we are doing so far. Moving the problems on to another place.

It's about time EVERYONE in Southend stood up to the council and the health authority and demanded Something is done to bring this to an end. More and more addicts and homeless in the town shows things are getting worse, not better.

We are all so preoccupied with 4 foot high concrete balls to make the train station area look pretty and fecking flowers hanging in baskets to please the day trippers while in the background there is a cess pit of churning depravity, agony and hopelessness that wont stay hidden for long.

These are fellow human beings that have and are being left to go down a path of destruction that while we all snub our noses and say how nasty it is wont just taint them.. it will one day bust open and be in everyones face.

We need a cure not snobbery.

Why doesn't the Echo start a campaign asking residents to demand something is done to turn these people around into humans that can contribute.

If the council, health authority and us citizens made a concerted effort to implement some form of regime and rehabilitation to change things for these 'scum' then I truly believe that those who want to change will and those who don't will find an alternative borough to live in.

Either way... we win and save ourselves from becoming the next Rio de Janiero.... Did anyone see the documentary presented by Ross Kemp?

Or.. we can all continue to say "eww nasty scum" and wish them away and allow our local government to pimp the town and cover the cracks.. < pun intended.
[quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: Strange, the tower blocks overlooking the casino in Westcliff change hands for hundreds of thousands of pounds each. I wonder why that is?[/p][/quote]They are privately owned so a different category all together. The trouble with the flats in question is that a lot of the residents are also addicts, so making sure the entrance is shut securely when you get in and all you can think about is getting upstairs to get a 'hit' takes second place. Also a few of the flats contain 'dealers' who are more than happy to let 'customers' into the flats, once they have been paid for their goods they don't care if the 'customer' leaves and shuts to door securely or crawls up three flights of stairs to collapse in a corner to get his hit. It IS disgusting, it is vile, it's embarrassing and a place no 'decent' human wants to be but saying "Urgh scum" and "Chuck them out" wont cure the problem this town is spiralling towards. 'We' as a community are very good at shuddering and wanting the nasty elements of life moved out of our view but that is ALL we are doing so far. Moving the problems on to another place. It's about time EVERYONE in Southend stood up to the council and the health authority and demanded Something is done to bring this to an end. More and more addicts and homeless in the town shows things are getting worse, not better. We are all so preoccupied with 4 foot high concrete balls to make the train station area look pretty and fecking flowers hanging in baskets to please the day trippers while in the background there is a cess pit of churning depravity, agony and hopelessness that wont stay hidden for long. These are fellow human beings that have and are being left to go down a path of destruction that while we all snub our noses and say how nasty it is wont just taint them.. it will one day bust open and be in everyones face. We need a cure not snobbery. Why doesn't the Echo start a campaign asking residents to demand something is done to turn these people around into humans that can contribute. If the council, health authority and us citizens made a concerted effort to implement some form of regime and rehabilitation to change things for these 'scum' then I truly believe that those who want to change will and those who don't will find an alternative borough to live in. Either way... we win and save ourselves from becoming the next Rio de Janiero.... Did anyone see the documentary presented by Ross Kemp? Or.. we can all continue to say "eww nasty scum" and wish them away and allow our local government to pimp the town and cover the cracks.. < pun intended. TheaWells
  • Score: 24

12:08pm Tue 4 Feb 14

supermadmax says...

You can get some lovely, spacious flats in those blocks with stunning scenic views. However its very difficult to get a mortgage on a flat in a block and tenants are understandably reluctant to invest in a non owned property.

I'd suggest that most of the posters calling all the tenants druggies and similar don't actually no very much about the majority of people who live there. A security guard should do the trick, great idea.
You can get some lovely, spacious flats in those blocks with stunning scenic views. However its very difficult to get a mortgage on a flat in a block and tenants are understandably reluctant to invest in a non owned property. I'd suggest that most of the posters calling all the tenants druggies and similar don't actually no very much about the majority of people who live there. A security guard should do the trick, great idea. supermadmax
  • Score: 26

12:49pm Tue 4 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

supermadmax wrote:
You can get some lovely, spacious flats in those blocks with stunning scenic views. However its very difficult to get a mortgage on a flat in a block and tenants are understandably reluctant to invest in a non owned property.

I'd suggest that most of the posters calling all the tenants druggies and similar don't actually no very much about the majority of people who live there. A security guard should do the trick, great idea.
might have to dip into a small amount of the 4 million nicker earmarked for the re-vamp of the civic centre offices mind you, but i would say this has priority.
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: You can get some lovely, spacious flats in those blocks with stunning scenic views. However its very difficult to get a mortgage on a flat in a block and tenants are understandably reluctant to invest in a non owned property. I'd suggest that most of the posters calling all the tenants druggies and similar don't actually no very much about the majority of people who live there. A security guard should do the trick, great idea.[/p][/quote]might have to dip into a small amount of the 4 million nicker earmarked for the re-vamp of the civic centre offices mind you, but i would say this has priority. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 18

12:53pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Sagefields says...

All that will happen by making the flats secure is you will be locking the scum IN rather than keeping them out.
All that will happen by making the flats secure is you will be locking the scum IN rather than keeping them out. Sagefields
  • Score: 8

1:14pm Tue 4 Feb 14

happyme3 says...

Don't know why we all get tarnished with the same brush, looking through these comments... most of you are far too judgemental. I am one of the people who live in these flats, I go to work at least 6 days a week to provide for my son and yes I wouldn't choose to live there but its all I can afford right now. the flats are given such bad names and 95% of time its the people who don't live in the flats that sleep in the stairwells, brake the secure entry doors by forcing them open again and again, take drugs any and every ware and pee on the stairs but yet again it's us paying tenants that get blamed and given the bad name. in the years I've lived in the flats I have never ever had any problems. STOP GIVING HIGHRISES A BAD NAME!
Don't know why we all get tarnished with the same brush, looking through these comments... most of you are far too judgemental. I am one of the people who live in these flats, I go to work at least 6 days a week to provide for my son and yes I wouldn't choose to live there but its all I can afford right now. the flats are given such bad names and 95% of time its the people who don't live in the flats that sleep in the stairwells, brake the secure entry doors by forcing them open again and again, take drugs any and every ware and pee on the stairs but yet again it's us paying tenants that get blamed and given the bad name. in the years I've lived in the flats I have never ever had any problems. STOP GIVING HIGHRISES A BAD NAME! happyme3
  • Score: 33

1:37pm Tue 4 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

happyme3 wrote:
Don't know why we all get tarnished with the same brush, looking through these comments... most of you are far too judgemental. I am one of the people who live in these flats, I go to work at least 6 days a week to provide for my son and yes I wouldn't choose to live there but its all I can afford right now. the flats are given such bad names and 95% of time its the people who don't live in the flats that sleep in the stairwells, brake the secure entry doors by forcing them open again and again, take drugs any and every ware and pee on the stairs but yet again it's us paying tenants that get blamed and given the bad name. in the years I've lived in the flats I have never ever had any problems. STOP GIVING HIGHRISES A BAD NAME!
Your right, the Hilton of shyte holes, remember Beggars can't be Choosers
[quote][p][bold]happyme3[/bold] wrote: Don't know why we all get tarnished with the same brush, looking through these comments... most of you are far too judgemental. I am one of the people who live in these flats, I go to work at least 6 days a week to provide for my son and yes I wouldn't choose to live there but its all I can afford right now. the flats are given such bad names and 95% of time its the people who don't live in the flats that sleep in the stairwells, brake the secure entry doors by forcing them open again and again, take drugs any and every ware and pee on the stairs but yet again it's us paying tenants that get blamed and given the bad name. in the years I've lived in the flats I have never ever had any problems. STOP GIVING HIGHRISES A BAD NAME![/p][/quote]Your right, the Hilton of shyte holes, remember Beggars can't be Choosers You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: -8

3:32pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Hock89 says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
happyme3 wrote: Don't know why we all get tarnished with the same brush, looking through these comments... most of you are far too judgemental. I am one of the people who live in these flats, I go to work at least 6 days a week to provide for my son and yes I wouldn't choose to live there but its all I can afford right now. the flats are given such bad names and 95% of time its the people who don't live in the flats that sleep in the stairwells, brake the secure entry doors by forcing them open again and again, take drugs any and every ware and pee on the stairs but yet again it's us paying tenants that get blamed and given the bad name. in the years I've lived in the flats I have never ever had any problems. STOP GIVING HIGHRISES A BAD NAME!
Your right, the Hilton of shyte holes, remember Beggars can't be Choosers
95% of the time?.....you're still saying that 5% percent of the time it IS people who live in the building, who take drugs, "pee" on the stairs etc.....sounds like you have delighful neighbours
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]happyme3[/bold] wrote: Don't know why we all get tarnished with the same brush, looking through these comments... most of you are far too judgemental. I am one of the people who live in these flats, I go to work at least 6 days a week to provide for my son and yes I wouldn't choose to live there but its all I can afford right now. the flats are given such bad names and 95% of time its the people who don't live in the flats that sleep in the stairwells, brake the secure entry doors by forcing them open again and again, take drugs any and every ware and pee on the stairs but yet again it's us paying tenants that get blamed and given the bad name. in the years I've lived in the flats I have never ever had any problems. STOP GIVING HIGHRISES A BAD NAME![/p][/quote]Your right, the Hilton of shyte holes, remember Beggars can't be Choosers[/p][/quote]95% of the time?.....you're still saying that 5% percent of the time it IS people who live in the building, who take drugs, "pee" on the stairs etc.....sounds like you have delighful neighbours Hock89
  • Score: -14

4:25pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Druggie Scumbag says...

"The council and South Essex Homes insist they are tackling the problem of homeless people getting into the flats".

I would have thought they might have prioritised the problem of the homeless not getting into flats.
"The council and South Essex Homes insist they are tackling the problem of homeless people getting into the flats". I would have thought they might have prioritised the problem of the homeless not getting into flats. Druggie Scumbag
  • Score: 13

4:44pm Tue 4 Feb 14

the25man says...

The Council are not the Police so can only go so far with controlling entry to the flats
If you have security stopping every body coming into the flats comments would soon come through about I WAS STOPPED FROM VISITING MY FRIEND.
At least the Council is cleaning up the mess each day and when the doors are damaged they repair them. Iv'e seen people leave a small stone by the door so it doesn't close and when ever I have seen this I have removed the stone.
The Council are not the Police so can only go so far with controlling entry to the flats If you have security stopping every body coming into the flats comments would soon come through about I WAS STOPPED FROM VISITING MY FRIEND. At least the Council is cleaning up the mess each day and when the doors are damaged they repair them. Iv'e seen people leave a small stone by the door so it doesn't close and when ever I have seen this I have removed the stone. the25man
  • Score: 21

5:34pm Tue 4 Feb 14

jolllyboy says...

Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.
Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes. jolllyboy
  • Score: 8

6:30pm Tue 4 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
these eyesores need leveling.

drug test the residents. those without class a in their system should be rehoused. all the rest, export to russian gulags for some proper rehab..
Brother can you spare a dictator..(where you been asbo?)
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: these eyesores need leveling. drug test the residents. those without class a in their system should be rehoused. all the rest, export to russian gulags for some proper rehab..[/p][/quote]Brother can you spare a dictator..(where you been asbo?) ThisYear
  • Score: 4

6:34pm Tue 4 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
You'dfeelbetterforkn

owingthat
wrote:
Duck Egg wrote:
No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.
Like a lot of Flat dwellers, so Right
Flat dweller? Are all &quot;flat dwellers" druggies in your book then?
You live in a flat dont you Kim?

Perhaps you can answer your own question.

I bet no matter what you say someone will still think all flat dwellers are druggies...bit like you when you accuse all of a community for the few bad eggs within it..
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Duck Egg[/bold] wrote: No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.[/p][/quote]Like a lot of Flat dwellers, so Right[/p][/quote]Flat dweller? Are all "flat dwellers" druggies in your book then?[/p][/quote]You live in a flat dont you Kim? Perhaps you can answer your own question. I bet no matter what you say someone will still think all flat dwellers are druggies...bit like you when you accuse all of a community for the few bad eggs within it.. ThisYear
  • Score: 9

6:42pm Tue 4 Feb 14

the25man says...

jolllyboy wrote:
Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.
What difference would that make?
NONE
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.[/p][/quote]What difference would that make? NONE the25man
  • Score: 4

6:48pm Tue 4 Feb 14

DutchCyclist says...

Yikes also the parking round that neck of the woods does not look so good. Do they have underground parking there also or is the chaotic first come first served?
Yikes also the parking round that neck of the woods does not look so good. Do they have underground parking there also or is the chaotic first come first served? DutchCyclist
  • Score: 3

7:21pm Tue 4 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
these eyesores need leveling.

drug test the residents. those without class a in their system should be rehoused. all the rest, export to russian gulags for some proper rehab..
Brother can you spare a dictator..(where you been asbo?)
putting the world to rights in bournemouth

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/10975592
.Bournemouth_mum_Gem
ma_Moss_believed_to_
be_first_woman_in_Br
itain_to_die_from_ca
nnabis_poisoning/?re
f=rc
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: these eyesores need leveling. drug test the residents. those without class a in their system should be rehoused. all the rest, export to russian gulags for some proper rehab..[/p][/quote]Brother can you spare a dictator..(where you been asbo?)[/p][/quote]putting the world to rights in bournemouth http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/10975592 .Bournemouth_mum_Gem ma_Moss_believed_to_ be_first_woman_in_Br itain_to_die_from_ca nnabis_poisoning/?re f=rc profondo asbo
  • Score: 0

8:03pm Tue 4 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
these eyesores need leveling.

drug test the residents. those without class a in their system should be rehoused. all the rest, export to russian gulags for some proper rehab..
Brother can you spare a dictator..(where you been asbo?)
putting the world to rights in bournemouth

http://www.echo-news

.co.uk/news/10975592

.Bournemouth_mum_Gem

ma_Moss_believed_to_

be_first_woman_in_Br

itain_to_die_from_ca

nnabis_poisoning/?re

f=rc
truthy the weed has been absent for a while...i wonder if he is stinking up some lonely attic flat, flies covering the dormer window like a black curtain and the mangy cat fatter than it has ever been?
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: these eyesores need leveling. drug test the residents. those without class a in their system should be rehoused. all the rest, export to russian gulags for some proper rehab..[/p][/quote]Brother can you spare a dictator..(where you been asbo?)[/p][/quote]putting the world to rights in bournemouth http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/10975592 .Bournemouth_mum_Gem ma_Moss_believed_to_ be_first_woman_in_Br itain_to_die_from_ca nnabis_poisoning/?re f=rc[/p][/quote]truthy the weed has been absent for a while...i wonder if he is stinking up some lonely attic flat, flies covering the dormer window like a black curtain and the mangy cat fatter than it has ever been? ThisYear
  • Score: 3

8:35pm Tue 4 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

bluebottles? you're probably not too far from the truth ironically.
bluebottles? you're probably not too far from the truth ironically. profondo asbo
  • Score: 9

10:06pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Purple Om 89-91 says...

I spoke to one addict in Southend and he told me that since the early 80's a lot of the Heroin in the town has been supplied directly or indirectly by DSS accepting, "slum landlords"
I guess the advantage is, they have direct access and control of those vulnerable tenants upon which they prey.
It's a farm, paid for by tax payers.
I spoke to one addict in Southend and he told me that since the early 80's a lot of the Heroin in the town has been supplied directly or indirectly by DSS accepting, "slum landlords" I guess the advantage is, they have direct access and control of those vulnerable tenants upon which they prey. It's a farm, paid for by tax payers. Purple Om 89-91
  • Score: 8

12:41am Wed 5 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
bluebottles? you're probably not too far from the truth ironically.
Truthy à la RochfordRob?
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: bluebottles? you're probably not too far from the truth ironically.[/p][/quote]Truthy à la RochfordRob? ThisYear
  • Score: -1

6:37am Wed 5 Feb 14

Happy Chickie says...

jolllyboy wrote:
Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.
Why? You think the council will do a better job of it? I don't.
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.[/p][/quote]Why? You think the council will do a better job of it? I don't. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 3

1:51pm Wed 5 Feb 14

TheaWells says...

jolllyboy wrote:
Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.
Not at all. Time for us Southend residents and tax payers to demand something positive is done about this escalating mess. Not by just the council but a multi agency approach, council, NHS, investors etc etc

Banishing addicts, homeless or the mentally ill from certain areas just pushes the problem around. You can't cure the problem by moving it to another building or doorway.

Why can't Southend-on-Sea be the Flagship of a new venture...Shelter, rehabilitate, assimilate, employ, re-home.. Get the people who aren't in need of this service out of those flats and then refurbish them, have one as a medical centre for rehab, one as a recovery and progression accommodation where residents who are post rehab can live temporarily and go to college or job hunt with the first floor flats converted into an advisory unit... then the third block as affordable housing for those who have a job and need to save up a deposit and references for their own accommodation...
Studies show the most effective way to treat addicts is via therapeutic community residential programs which take on average between 3 to 6 months depending on individual needs. So you could have a turnover of 6 months for some people from crawling about on urine soaked stairs to living in the halfway house and gaining a qualification and references in order to get a job and contribute to the town.
When you weigh up crime rates, maintenance on the blocks, disruption, misery, NHS costs for overdoses etc etc the costs and the end results would be more desirable.

Look at how many of you agree with my last two posts... we ALL want something done, why does the media (Echo) make us believe people just want the problem hidden? We dont!

You could gather all the investors in the town to sponsor the project and within a year Southend could be hailed as the success story it claims to be with all it's hanging baskets and redevelopments.

Those addicts who don't want to embark on the project can be happily escorted out of Southend.

Zero tolerance to homelessness and un treated addiction .. that's what we need here. it's ridiculous that in a town with so many wealthy business owners, so many empty buildings and money being thrown at 'white wash' ventures that we have Rio de Janeiro style ghettos with our fellow citizens crawling up **** soaked stairwells that our future generation have to use to get to school the next day.

Screw the multi bedroom posh hotel in Victoria Road.. we don't need it.. we need to clean up our hidden rot first before we paint the walls!

I thought the reason Southend became a Unitary Authority in 1998 was so we had control over our funds and could make this a town to be proud of?

For goodness sake.... how do I run for council???? It's about time someone with balls, pride and vision ran this joint.
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Time for us Southend residents and tax payers to demand something positive is done about this escalating mess. Not by just the council but a multi agency approach, council, NHS, investors etc etc Banishing addicts, homeless or the mentally ill from certain areas just pushes the problem around. You can't cure the problem by moving it to another building or doorway. Why can't Southend-on-Sea be the Flagship of a new venture...Shelter, rehabilitate, assimilate, employ, re-home.. Get the people who aren't in need of this service out of those flats and then refurbish them, have one as a medical centre for rehab, one as a recovery and progression accommodation where residents who are post rehab can live temporarily and go to college or job hunt with the first floor flats converted into an advisory unit... then the third block as affordable housing for those who have a job and need to save up a deposit and references for their own accommodation... Studies show the most effective way to treat addicts is via therapeutic community residential programs which take on average between 3 to 6 months depending on individual needs. So you could have a turnover of 6 months for some people from crawling about on urine soaked stairs to living in the halfway house and gaining a qualification and references in order to get a job and contribute to the town. When you weigh up crime rates, maintenance on the blocks, disruption, misery, NHS costs for overdoses etc etc the costs and the end results would be more desirable. Look at how many of you agree with my last two posts... we ALL want something done, why does the media (Echo) make us believe people just want the problem hidden? We dont! You could gather all the investors in the town to sponsor the project and within a year Southend could be hailed as the success story it claims to be with all it's hanging baskets and redevelopments. Those addicts who don't want to embark on the project can be happily escorted out of Southend. Zero tolerance to homelessness and un treated addiction .. that's what we need here. it's ridiculous that in a town with so many wealthy business owners, so many empty buildings and money being thrown at 'white wash' ventures that we have Rio de Janeiro style ghettos with our fellow citizens crawling up **** soaked stairwells that our future generation have to use to get to school the next day. Screw the multi bedroom posh hotel in Victoria Road.. we don't need it.. we need to clean up our hidden rot first before we paint the walls! I thought the reason Southend became a Unitary Authority in 1998 was so we had control over our funds and could make this a town to be proud of? For goodness sake.... how do I run for council???? It's about time someone with balls, pride and vision ran this joint. TheaWells
  • Score: 8

2:46pm Wed 5 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

TheaWells wrote:
jolllyboy wrote:
Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.
Not at all. Time for us Southend residents and tax payers to demand something positive is done about this escalating mess. Not by just the council but a multi agency approach, council, NHS, investors etc etc

Banishing addicts, homeless or the mentally ill from certain areas just pushes the problem around. You can't cure the problem by moving it to another building or doorway.

Why can't Southend-on-Sea be the Flagship of a new venture...Shelter, rehabilitate, assimilate, employ, re-home.. Get the people who aren't in need of this service out of those flats and then refurbish them, have one as a medical centre for rehab, one as a recovery and progression accommodation where residents who are post rehab can live temporarily and go to college or job hunt with the first floor flats converted into an advisory unit... then the third block as affordable housing for those who have a job and need to save up a deposit and references for their own accommodation...
Studies show the most effective way to treat addicts is via therapeutic community residential programs which take on average between 3 to 6 months depending on individual needs. So you could have a turnover of 6 months for some people from crawling about on urine soaked stairs to living in the halfway house and gaining a qualification and references in order to get a job and contribute to the town.
When you weigh up crime rates, maintenance on the blocks, disruption, misery, NHS costs for overdoses etc etc the costs and the end results would be more desirable.

Look at how many of you agree with my last two posts... we ALL want something done, why does the media (Echo) make us believe people just want the problem hidden? We dont!

You could gather all the investors in the town to sponsor the project and within a year Southend could be hailed as the success story it claims to be with all it's hanging baskets and redevelopments.

Those addicts who don't want to embark on the project can be happily escorted out of Southend.

Zero tolerance to homelessness and un treated addiction .. that's what we need here. it's ridiculous that in a town with so many wealthy business owners, so many empty buildings and money being thrown at 'white wash' ventures that we have Rio de Janeiro style ghettos with our fellow citizens crawling up **** soaked stairwells that our future generation have to use to get to school the next day.

Screw the multi bedroom posh hotel in Victoria Road.. we don't need it.. we need to clean up our hidden rot first before we paint the walls!

I thought the reason Southend became a Unitary Authority in 1998 was so we had control over our funds and could make this a town to be proud of?

For goodness sake.... how do I run for council???? It's about time someone with balls, pride and vision ran this joint.
*balls, pride and vision*

Three of five things that are 'surplus to need' in regards to being a politician.
You could of added integrity and honesty.
[quote][p][bold]TheaWells[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Time to get responsibility back to council not SE Homes.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Time for us Southend residents and tax payers to demand something positive is done about this escalating mess. Not by just the council but a multi agency approach, council, NHS, investors etc etc Banishing addicts, homeless or the mentally ill from certain areas just pushes the problem around. You can't cure the problem by moving it to another building or doorway. Why can't Southend-on-Sea be the Flagship of a new venture...Shelter, rehabilitate, assimilate, employ, re-home.. Get the people who aren't in need of this service out of those flats and then refurbish them, have one as a medical centre for rehab, one as a recovery and progression accommodation where residents who are post rehab can live temporarily and go to college or job hunt with the first floor flats converted into an advisory unit... then the third block as affordable housing for those who have a job and need to save up a deposit and references for their own accommodation... Studies show the most effective way to treat addicts is via therapeutic community residential programs which take on average between 3 to 6 months depending on individual needs. So you could have a turnover of 6 months for some people from crawling about on urine soaked stairs to living in the halfway house and gaining a qualification and references in order to get a job and contribute to the town. When you weigh up crime rates, maintenance on the blocks, disruption, misery, NHS costs for overdoses etc etc the costs and the end results would be more desirable. Look at how many of you agree with my last two posts... we ALL want something done, why does the media (Echo) make us believe people just want the problem hidden? We dont! You could gather all the investors in the town to sponsor the project and within a year Southend could be hailed as the success story it claims to be with all it's hanging baskets and redevelopments. Those addicts who don't want to embark on the project can be happily escorted out of Southend. Zero tolerance to homelessness and un treated addiction .. that's what we need here. it's ridiculous that in a town with so many wealthy business owners, so many empty buildings and money being thrown at 'white wash' ventures that we have Rio de Janeiro style ghettos with our fellow citizens crawling up **** soaked stairwells that our future generation have to use to get to school the next day. Screw the multi bedroom posh hotel in Victoria Road.. we don't need it.. we need to clean up our hidden rot first before we paint the walls! I thought the reason Southend became a Unitary Authority in 1998 was so we had control over our funds and could make this a town to be proud of? For goodness sake.... how do I run for council???? It's about time someone with balls, pride and vision ran this joint.[/p][/quote]*balls, pride and vision* Three of five things that are 'surplus to need' in regards to being a politician. You could of added integrity and honesty. ThisYear
  • Score: 2

4:17pm Wed 5 Feb 14

TheaWells says...

Touché 'ThisYear' , indeed! ... even more reason for there to be a big change, new blood, funds spent on improving the town for the residents and not for the tourists... for now anyway.
Touché 'ThisYear' , indeed! ... even more reason for there to be a big change, new blood, funds spent on improving the town for the residents and not for the tourists... for now anyway. TheaWells
  • Score: 2

4:30pm Wed 5 Feb 14

_Lotus_ says...

Duck Egg wrote:
No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.
and what about the people who actually LIVE in those flats, did they make their luck inviting the trash that inject on the stairwells then?
[quote][p][bold]Duck Egg[/bold] wrote: No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.[/p][/quote]and what about the people who actually LIVE in those flats, did they make their luck inviting the trash that inject on the stairwells then? _Lotus_
  • Score: 5

8:54am Thu 6 Feb 14

TheaWells says...

Duck Egg wrote:
No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.
With respect, you unfortunately haven't the slightest clue about mental health issues, addiction, domestic violence, job loss, or any of the other thousand reasons why someone might CHOOSE to not live at home and to take a substance which could be addictive or harmful.

In one way this is good.. thank goodness Duck Egg that you have no experience of these issues first hand and that you and your family are all happy, healthy and have money to survive.

'People' don't make their own luck in life.
Did Brenda ask to be repeatedly raped and beaten by her husband to the point she had no choice but to head for the streets? The only way she could cope with the mental hideousness of it all was to drink the cider another homeless person was offering her? She is now an acoholic and hates herself.
Did Frank chose for his business to go bankrupt, his wife to leave him , to suffer a mental breakdown, not afford his mortgage and become suicidal? He is saving up his valium so he can end it all and spends his days on a park bench drowning his thoughts with vodka.

You seem to think the people this article refers to are all neurotypical hard working individuals one day who say "Hey, I really fancy injecting some heroin today, p*ssing myself and starting a fight with someone over a can of Fosters!".

You are doing exactly what I accused the Echo of doing.. pointing at the depravity and saying "Ewwwww get it away!!! Call in Security so they can banish them!"

And THIS.... this is why things will continue to get worse in Southend ..
[quote][p][bold]Duck Egg[/bold] wrote: No Sympathy. People make their own luck in life and I guarantee most people end up in that situation through their own actions.[/p][/quote]With respect, you unfortunately haven't the slightest clue about mental health issues, addiction, domestic violence, job loss, or any of the other thousand reasons why someone might CHOOSE to not live at home and to take a substance which could be addictive or harmful. In one way this is good.. thank goodness Duck Egg that you have no experience of these issues first hand and that you and your family are all happy, healthy and have money to survive. 'People' don't make their own luck in life. Did Brenda ask to be repeatedly raped and beaten by her husband to the point she had no choice but to head for the streets? The only way she could cope with the mental hideousness of it all was to drink the cider another homeless person was offering her? She is now an acoholic and hates herself. Did Frank chose for his business to go bankrupt, his wife to leave him , to suffer a mental breakdown, not afford his mortgage and become suicidal? He is saving up his valium so he can end it all and spends his days on a park bench drowning his thoughts with vodka. You seem to think the people this article refers to are all neurotypical hard working individuals one day who say "Hey, I really fancy injecting some heroin today, p*ssing myself and starting a fight with someone over a can of Fosters!". You are doing exactly what I accused the Echo of doing.. pointing at the depravity and saying "Ewwwww get it away!!! Call in Security so they can banish them!" And THIS.... this is why things will continue to get worse in Southend .. TheaWells
  • Score: 8

12:20pm Thu 6 Feb 14

RochfordRob says...

ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
bluebottles? you're probably not too far from the truth ironically.
Truthy à la RochfordRob?
Mixing me up with someone else? Again? Oh dear, I see a pattern forming.

Let's hope not though eh, else you'll be getting a little missive from the moderators.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: bluebottles? you're probably not too far from the truth ironically.[/p][/quote]Truthy à la RochfordRob?[/p][/quote]Mixing me up with someone else? Again? Oh dear, I see a pattern forming. Let's hope not though eh, else you'll be getting a little missive from the moderators. RochfordRob
  • Score: -1

9:28pm Thu 6 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

RochfordRob wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
bluebottles? you're probably not too far from the truth ironically.
Truthy à la RochfordRob?
Mixing me up with someone else? Again? Oh dear, I see a pattern forming.

Let's hope not though eh, else you'll be getting a little missive from the moderators.
I merely ask a question...is that a worry to you nowadays? You seem rather paranoid.

Im sure the admin are fed up of you reporting everyone who disagrees with you..
[quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: bluebottles? you're probably not too far from the truth ironically.[/p][/quote]Truthy à la RochfordRob?[/p][/quote]Mixing me up with someone else? Again? Oh dear, I see a pattern forming. Let's hope not though eh, else you'll be getting a little missive from the moderators.[/p][/quote]I merely ask a question...is that a worry to you nowadays? You seem rather paranoid. Im sure the admin are fed up of you reporting everyone who disagrees with you.. ThisYear
  • Score: -2

1:11am Sat 8 Feb 14

jayman says...

people become products of their environment.

the poor living environments of low paid workers used to be balanced by a rich and fulfilling working class culture. Successive governments have developed policies to destroy the basic social systems of working class culture in an act of social engineering or aggressive socio-economic 'nudging' that has removed the social capital and life chances of some of the poorest in our society. The environments and physical provisions for low paid workers have also been in decline.

End result. What you see before you! Hopelessness, drug and alcohol dependency and decline.

The Tory party dose not allow and cannot allow for the 'appropriate solution' due to the Tory parties doctrine of 'self'. We need a society that has a mixed approach. partial state and personal ownership is part of the solution. Targeted and strategic welfare state is essential.

Unfortunately the Tory party are powerless due to unchanging views based on social 'Othering'. A question still remains about how public opinion is commanded, one which seeks to change the views of one part of society of another.

The Tory party know the solution, they are aware of how easily (and relatively cheaply) it could be delivered and the positive-sum power it could yield, However! It's not compatible with what they believe in and work towards. The jag looks brighter and shinier in and amongst the hopelessness despair, And at 70 miles an hour as the Tory minister or councillor passes it by on the motorway...
people become products of their environment. the poor living environments of low paid workers used to be balanced by a rich and fulfilling working class culture. Successive governments have developed policies to destroy the basic social systems of working class culture in an act of social engineering or aggressive socio-economic 'nudging' that has removed the social capital and life chances of some of the poorest in our society. The environments and physical provisions for low paid workers have also been in decline. End result. What you see before you! Hopelessness, drug and alcohol dependency and decline. The Tory party dose not allow and cannot allow for the 'appropriate solution' due to the Tory parties doctrine of 'self'. We need a society that has a mixed approach. partial state and personal ownership is part of the solution. Targeted and strategic welfare state is essential. Unfortunately the Tory party are powerless due to unchanging views based on social 'Othering'. A question still remains about how public opinion is commanded, one which seeks to change the views of one part of society of another. The Tory party know the solution, they are aware of how easily (and relatively cheaply) it could be delivered and the positive-sum power it could yield, However! It's not compatible with what they believe in and work towards. The jag looks brighter and shinier in and amongst the hopelessness despair, And at 70 miles an hour as the Tory minister or councillor passes it by on the motorway... jayman
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10:10am Sat 8 Feb 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

There should not be any disused anything in the stairwells and there shouldnt be any homeless people in Southend. I telephoned Southend council help line for elderly vulnerable people to report an elderly lady living rough in southend and they asked me for her address, I stated she is HOMELESS , she hasnt got an address, well has she got a telephone number was the reply from a member of the council staff ( too young havnt done the walk of life) are you sure you havnt got an address well NO SHE IS HOMELESS her address is STONE COLD SLAB YORK ROAD BUS STATION YORK ROAD SOUTHEND the council worker on the telephone was robotic. and had the empathy of a plank.
There should not be any disused anything in the stairwells and there shouldnt be any homeless people in Southend. I telephoned Southend council help line for elderly vulnerable people to report an elderly lady living rough in southend and they asked me for her address, I stated she is HOMELESS , she hasnt got an address, well has she got a telephone number was the reply from a member of the council staff ( too young havnt done the walk of life) are you sure you havnt got an address well NO SHE IS HOMELESS her address is STONE COLD SLAB YORK ROAD BUS STATION YORK ROAD SOUTHEND the council worker on the telephone was robotic. and had the empathy of a plank. CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 4

12:00pm Mon 10 Feb 14

essex bad boy says...

happyme3 wrote:
Don't know why we all get tarnished with the same brush, looking through these comments... most of you are far too judgemental. I am one of the people who live in these flats, I go to work at least 6 days a week to provide for my son and yes I wouldn't choose to live there but its all I can afford right now. the flats are given such bad names and 95% of time its the people who don't live in the flats that sleep in the stairwells, brake the secure entry doors by forcing them open again and again, take drugs any and every ware and pee on the stairs but yet again it's us paying tenants that get blamed and given the bad name. in the years I've lived in the flats I have never ever had any problems. STOP GIVING HIGHRISES A BAD NAME!
I am living in a different part of town in a block, gave the Echo a story its been run but none of my photos where shown I wander why? to graphic, for a family paper, this is a wet weekend compared to what was on display,
for all tower block residents I have this to say to us all,
1. Go to your block meetings then speak your mind to SEH
2. Go to the NAP meetings again bring this up, you are given an opportunity to tell the Police what YOU want to happen in YOUR area, then make this the priority for that month IT WORKS.
3. crime prevention is TOP of the Police agenda, but only certain areas of it,
4. Group together get your committee members to attend the monthly FED meetings at Cheviot house
5. make a noise to your ASB team, daily if you have too.
6. the more complaints that go into SEH/SBC then they will start to listen, it is all down to us as committee members to listen and ACT for you.
7. SPEAK UP AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY AT ALL MEETING THAT YOU CAN, you will be heard eventually.
8. Complain to your local Councillors they will if they are good stand up for you as an association, ours do and accomplish loads.
9. It's ALWAYS down to non residents that CAUSE THIS issue get the security teams in NOW do more stop and search by Police when they find TRESPASSERS in the stair wells.
10 The solution can only start with that very first phone call to SEH so please ring daily to the call centre and put your COMPLAINTS in every time, WE have here, the result is only a few complaints a week now but YOU AS RESIDENTS must start by making that call NOW.. GET HEARD GET THE BLOCKS CLEAN GET YOUR HOME BACK GET DIALLING
[quote][p][bold]happyme3[/bold] wrote: Don't know why we all get tarnished with the same brush, looking through these comments... most of you are far too judgemental. I am one of the people who live in these flats, I go to work at least 6 days a week to provide for my son and yes I wouldn't choose to live there but its all I can afford right now. the flats are given such bad names and 95% of time its the people who don't live in the flats that sleep in the stairwells, brake the secure entry doors by forcing them open again and again, take drugs any and every ware and pee on the stairs but yet again it's us paying tenants that get blamed and given the bad name. in the years I've lived in the flats I have never ever had any problems. STOP GIVING HIGHRISES A BAD NAME![/p][/quote]I am living in a different part of town in a block, gave the Echo a story its been run but none of my photos where shown I wander why? to graphic, for a family paper, this is a wet weekend compared to what was on display, for all tower block residents I have this to say to us all, 1. Go to your block meetings then speak your mind to SEH 2. Go to the NAP meetings again bring this up, you are given an opportunity to tell the Police what YOU want to happen in YOUR area, then make this the priority for that month IT WORKS. 3. crime prevention is TOP of the Police agenda, but only certain areas of it, 4. Group together get your committee members to attend the monthly FED meetings at Cheviot house 5. make a noise to your ASB team, daily if you have too. 6. the more complaints that go into SEH/SBC then they will start to listen, it is all down to us as committee members to listen and ACT for you. 7. SPEAK UP AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY AT ALL MEETING THAT YOU CAN, you will be heard eventually. 8. Complain to your local Councillors they will if they are good stand up for you as an association, ours do and accomplish loads. 9. It's ALWAYS down to non residents that CAUSE THIS issue get the security teams in NOW do more stop and search by Police when they find TRESPASSERS in the stair wells. 10 The solution can only start with that very first phone call to SEH so please ring daily to the call centre and put your COMPLAINTS in every time, WE have here, the result is only a few complaints a week now but YOU AS RESIDENTS must start by making that call NOW.. GET HEARD GET THE BLOCKS CLEAN GET YOUR HOME BACK GET DIALLING essex bad boy
  • Score: 1

12:06pm Mon 10 Feb 14

_Lotus_ says...

CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
There should not be any disused anything in the stairwells and there shouldnt be any homeless people in Southend. I telephoned Southend council help line for elderly vulnerable people to report an elderly lady living rough in southend and they asked me for her address, I stated she is HOMELESS , she hasnt got an address, well has she got a telephone number was the reply from a member of the council staff ( too young havnt done the walk of life) are you sure you havnt got an address well NO SHE IS HOMELESS her address is STONE COLD SLAB YORK ROAD BUS STATION YORK ROAD SOUTHEND the council worker on the telephone was robotic. and had the empathy of a plank.
Bloody ridiculous :(

Her replies were that way because she wasn't really listening to what you were saying at all.

Did you ever get a satisfactory outcome for this woman?
[quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: There should not be any disused anything in the stairwells and there shouldnt be any homeless people in Southend. I telephoned Southend council help line for elderly vulnerable people to report an elderly lady living rough in southend and they asked me for her address, I stated she is HOMELESS , she hasnt got an address, well has she got a telephone number was the reply from a member of the council staff ( too young havnt done the walk of life) are you sure you havnt got an address well NO SHE IS HOMELESS her address is STONE COLD SLAB YORK ROAD BUS STATION YORK ROAD SOUTHEND the council worker on the telephone was robotic. and had the empathy of a plank.[/p][/quote]Bloody ridiculous :( Her replies were that way because she wasn't really listening to what you were saying at all. Did you ever get a satisfactory outcome for this woman? _Lotus_
  • Score: 0

2:48am Mon 17 Feb 14

Mike Smith says...

Homeless people - and sometimes drug users - end up sleeping rough in the tower blocks because there is no where else for them to go. I have seen people sleeping on my landing, and usually it is understandable when it is pouring with rain outside or below zero on the street.

I do not know what the answer is, but we all are responsible for how we treat those less advantaged than ourselves. Perhaps the Council should build more hostels?

However, do ot accuse us who live on the Queensway estate of being responsible for the homeless and drug users who roam around our town. We are all responsible for the homeless - not just us who live in the tower blocks.
Homeless people - and sometimes drug users - end up sleeping rough in the tower blocks because there is no where else for them to go. I have seen people sleeping on my landing, and usually it is understandable when it is pouring with rain outside or below zero on the street. I do not know what the answer is, but we all are responsible for how we treat those less advantaged than ourselves. Perhaps the Council should build more hostels? However, do ot accuse us who live on the Queensway estate of being responsible for the homeless and drug users who roam around our town. We are all responsible for the homeless - not just us who live in the tower blocks. Mike Smith
  • Score: 1

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