UPDATED: Freak wave kills Essex passenger aboard Tilbury-bound Marco Polo

Basildon Recorder: The Marco Polo ship. Pic http://onthethames.net/ The Marco Polo ship. Pic http://onthethames.net/

A PASSENGER from Essex was killed during stormy conditions aboard the Marco Polo on the English Channel.

The cruise ship, based out of the Port of Tilbury and operated by Cruise and Maritime Voyages, was bound for the Thurrock terminal when it was hit by a large wave off the coast of Cornwall.

An 85-year-old man, named as James Swinstead from Colchester died after water crashed through one of the vessel's windows.

A woman, aged 70, was airlifted to hospital but her condition is not said to be life threatening. Fourteen other passengers aboard the ship, which was due at Tilbury this afternoon after completing a 42-night cruise to the Azores, were left with minor injuries.

The vessel's Waldorf Restaurant sustained damage during the incident but the CMV bosses say tomorrow night's scheduled sailing to the Northern Lights will go ahead.

One of the injured passengers, Allan Cooper, told Channel 4 News: "The seas, visible through the windows, were very rough. Waves were peaking nearly parallel to the windows. Furniture in the restaurant was beginning to shift, so people were holding on to tables and chairs.

"Suddenly there was a very loud 'bang' and the daylight in the room reduced as a wall of seawater covered most of the starboard windows. The bang was the breaching of a forward window in the restaurant.

"Pandemonium broke out. Some people were drenched and most people were wet but people were very well-behaved, looking out for each other, whilst all anxious to get out of the danger area."

At lunchtime on Saturday, a spokesman for CMV said: "Cruise and Maritime Voyages confirm that following a freak wave that hit their cruise ship Marco Polo yesterday afternoon during adverse sea conditions.

"We regret to advise that one elderly passenger has died and a second unrelated passenger was airlifted for further shore-side medical assistance where we understand her condition is not life threatening.

Basildon Recorder: marco polo returning after stormy cruise

The Marco Polo returning to Port of Tilbury on Sunday night. [Pic: On The Thames - Twitter] http://onthethames.net 

"Marco Polo has sustained some damage in the Waldorf Restaurant and following reparation works will sail tomorrow evening from Tilbury on her scheduled 14 nights cruise to Norway and the land of the Northern Lights."

The vessel sailed from Tilbury on January 5 and is carrying 735 mainly British passengers and 349 crew.

Mr Swinstead was a former marketing man and father-of-two. He had been on the dream cruise with his wife, Helen, 82.

The company spokesman said: "Our thoughts are very much with these passengers and their families during this difficult time."

Severe warnings for wind and rain were issued by the Met Office as more high winds and heavy rain battered the south and south east of England on Friday night.

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4:50am Sat 15 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old...

Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise
Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship.

Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship.

The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days.

This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers.

The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them.

I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs.
Publication Date: 01/15/14
From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old... Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship. Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship. The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days. This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers. The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them. I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs. Publication Date: 01/15/14 You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat

10:41am Sat 15 Feb 14

mikgrays says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old...

Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise
Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship.

Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship.

The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days.

This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers.

The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them.

I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs.
Publication Date: 01/15/14
Sorry to here about your experiences,but a man has just been killed on this ship,i think your comments are a bit insensitive. puts your gripes into perspective don't you think.
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old... Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship. Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship. The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days. This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers. The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them. I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs. Publication Date: 01/15/14[/p][/quote]Sorry to here about your experiences,but a man has just been killed on this ship,i think your comments are a bit insensitive. puts your gripes into perspective don't you think. mikgrays

1:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

chunkus04 says...

mikgrays wrote:
You'dfeelbetterforkn

owingthat
wrote:
From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old...

Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise
Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship.

Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship.

The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days.

This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers.

The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them.

I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs.
Publication Date: 01/15/14
Sorry to here about your experiences,but a man has just been killed on this ship,i think your comments are a bit insensitive. puts your gripes into perspective don't you think.
I think the point that he/she was trying to make is that the captain of this ship had been taking risks with a lot of people lives for a long time. The comment is in no way offensive it merely highlights what a loose cannon this captain has been... I hope that he is investigated maybe for manslaughter
[quote][p][bold]mikgrays[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old... Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship. Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship. The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days. This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers. The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them. I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs. Publication Date: 01/15/14[/p][/quote]Sorry to here about your experiences,but a man has just been killed on this ship,i think your comments are a bit insensitive. puts your gripes into perspective don't you think.[/p][/quote]I think the point that he/she was trying to make is that the captain of this ship had been taking risks with a lot of people lives for a long time. The comment is in no way offensive it merely highlights what a loose cannon this captain has been... I hope that he is investigated maybe for manslaughter chunkus04

2:12pm Sat 15 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old...

Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise
Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship.

Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship.

The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days.

This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers.

The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them.

I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs.
Publication Date: 01/15/14
The main point of note, being the fact the windows leaked water, showing the seals had most likely perished, and as such with a huge wave such as were being created during that Channel crossing, in the force 10 gale, meant that anyone sitting behind a window, hit by such a large wave would find themselves in mortal danger.
Which was how this terrible, and fatal accident has unfolded.
I hope the cruise line in question are held to account, some people with interests in such a company, might not like the connections made between leaking windows, and the window being stoved in, by a wave, but then if you shares in the said cruise company, any bad news might be suggested offensive...
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old... Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship. Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship. The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days. This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers. The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them. I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs. Publication Date: 01/15/14[/p][/quote]The main point of note, being the fact the windows leaked water, showing the seals had most likely perished, and as such with a huge wave such as were being created during that Channel crossing, in the force 10 gale, meant that anyone sitting behind a window, hit by such a large wave would find themselves in mortal danger. Which was how this terrible, and fatal accident has unfolded. I hope the cruise line in question are held to account, some people with interests in such a company, might not like the connections made between leaking windows, and the window being stoved in, by a wave, but then if you shares in the said cruise company, any bad news might be suggested offensive... You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat

3:32pm Sat 15 Feb 14

scrounger‎ says...

When I was in the merchant navy in the 60's as soon as there was rough weather all the ships iron dead lights were screwed down over the port holes to stop something like this happening. This could mean days without any natural light but was safe.
When I was in the merchant navy in the 60's as soon as there was rough weather all the ships iron dead lights were screwed down over the port holes to stop something like this happening. This could mean days without any natural light but was safe. scrounger‎

6:24pm Sat 15 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

scrounger‎ wrote:
When I was in the merchant navy in the 60's as soon as there was rough weather all the ships iron dead lights were screwed down over the port holes to stop something like this happening. This could mean days without any natural light but was safe.
Im afraid to say the Marco Polo is the Paupers cruise ship, which is fit for the scrap heap, but alas, thar she blows, as another bunch of working class over fifties, clamber aboard, for their budget trip abroad...
[quote][p][bold]scrounger‎[/bold] wrote: When I was in the merchant navy in the 60's as soon as there was rough weather all the ships iron dead lights were screwed down over the port holes to stop something like this happening. This could mean days without any natural light but was safe.[/p][/quote]Im afraid to say the Marco Polo is the Paupers cruise ship, which is fit for the scrap heap, but alas, thar she blows, as another bunch of working class over fifties, clamber aboard, for their budget trip abroad... You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat

6:41pm Sat 15 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
You'dfeelbetterforkn

owingthat
wrote:
From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old...

Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise
Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship.

Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship.

The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days.

This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers.

The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them.

I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs.
Publication Date: 01/15/14
The main point of note, being the fact the windows leaked water, showing the seals had most likely perished, and as such with a huge wave such as were being created during that Channel crossing, in the force 10 gale, meant that anyone sitting behind a window, hit by such a large wave would find themselves in mortal danger.
Which was how this terrible, and fatal accident has unfolded.
I hope the cruise line in question are held to account, some people with interests in such a company, might not like the connections made between leaking windows, and the window being stoved in, by a wave, but then if you shares in the said cruise company, any bad news might be suggested offensive...
Ive already given a statement, in regards to this accident waiting to happen, the ship needs to be taken out of service, and scrapped
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old... Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship. Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship. The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days. This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers. The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them. I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs. Publication Date: 01/15/14[/p][/quote]The main point of note, being the fact the windows leaked water, showing the seals had most likely perished, and as such with a huge wave such as were being created during that Channel crossing, in the force 10 gale, meant that anyone sitting behind a window, hit by such a large wave would find themselves in mortal danger. Which was how this terrible, and fatal accident has unfolded. I hope the cruise line in question are held to account, some people with interests in such a company, might not like the connections made between leaking windows, and the window being stoved in, by a wave, but then if you shares in the said cruise company, any bad news might be suggested offensive...[/p][/quote]Ive already given a statement, in regards to this accident waiting to happen, the ship needs to be taken out of service, and scrapped You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat

5:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

chunkus04 wrote:
mikgrays wrote:
You'dfeelbetterforkn


owingthat
wrote:
From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old...

Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise
Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship.

Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship.

The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days.

This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers.

The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them.

I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs.
Publication Date: 01/15/14
Sorry to here about your experiences,but a man has just been killed on this ship,i think your comments are a bit insensitive. puts your gripes into perspective don't you think.
I think the point that he/she was trying to make is that the captain of this ship had been taking risks with a lot of people lives for a long time. The comment is in no way offensive it merely highlights what a loose cannon this captain has been... I hope that he is investigated maybe for manslaughter
Here here!!
[quote][p][bold]chunkus04[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikgrays[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old... Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship. Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship. The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days. This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers. The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them. I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs. Publication Date: 01/15/14[/p][/quote]Sorry to here about your experiences,but a man has just been killed on this ship,i think your comments are a bit insensitive. puts your gripes into perspective don't you think.[/p][/quote]I think the point that he/she was trying to make is that the captain of this ship had been taking risks with a lot of people lives for a long time. The comment is in no way offensive it merely highlights what a loose cannon this captain has been... I hope that he is investigated maybe for manslaughter[/p][/quote]Here here!! Living the La Vida Legra

5:12pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
You'dfeelbetterforkn

owingthat
wrote:
From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old...

Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise
Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship.

Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship.

The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days.

This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers.

The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them.

I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs.
Publication Date: 01/15/14
The main point of note, being the fact the windows leaked water, showing the seals had most likely perished, and as such with a huge wave such as were being created during that Channel crossing, in the force 10 gale, meant that anyone sitting behind a window, hit by such a large wave would find themselves in mortal danger.
Which was how this terrible, and fatal accident has unfolded.
I hope the cruise line in question are held to account, some people with interests in such a company, might not like the connections made between leaking windows, and the window being stoved in, by a wave, but then if you shares in the said cruise company, any bad news might be suggested offensive...
Really odd voting going on here? People with Multiple accounts no doubt
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: From Cruise Critic UK, this aging cruise ship seems to have had it's better days,launched in 1964, that means she's 50 Years old... Dreadful Christmas and New Year Cruise Horrendous, Horrendous, Horrendous. The Captain should never have taken the ship out of Tilbury. He knew that we were heading straight into a storm in the English channel and a force 10 gale going through the Bay of Biscay. All other shipping took shelter but he boasted to us all that he was the only one who took his ship through such dreadful weather. His decision meant that we had many injured passengers, some needing hospital treatment. Out of 14 days we only had 3 days of calm seas. We missed out some of our port of calls and stayed less time in others. We should have stopped at Lisbon on our way back but the Captain decided to go straight through from Madeira to La Havre saying it was to avoid the worst of the weather going back over the Bay of Biscay. If fact he took us through at the worst time when the storm was at its peak. Again this caused many more injuries to passengers and a lot of damage to the interior of the ship. Out of our 14 day holiday I was bedridden with severe sea sickness for 8. Weather conditions for shipping is known well in advance so the safety and comfort of passengers should not had been put at risk as it was on this ship. Putting the weather aside I can honestly say that this company has no idea how to run a cruise ship. The Chef has never worked in an English restaurant and has no idea how to cook for the English taste. Our Christmas dinner was a joke. The traditional Christmas day meal that was advertised in their brochure it was not. We had 2 slices of rolled turkey,1 pigs in blanket 3 halves of sprouts ,1 small floret of cauliflower and 4 tiny pieces of fried potatoes. We had no roast potatoes, stuffing, parsnips, peas or carrots. The Christmas pudding was anything but. It was a half round piece of dry sponge flavoured with some mixed spice with no fruit in it at all. The rest of the meals on this ship were equally unappetising and clearly made from cheap ingredients. The cold meats for salads at lunch time consisted of Eastern European style processed meats. It was the same for the whole 14 days. This is a very budget ship charging luxury prices. We paid £4,500.00 for the 2 of us for this cruise. We have been on other cruises and paid a lot less than this for fantastic food and cabins. Our cabin was supposed to be a premium outside double. It was very dated with leaking windows, hard small single beds pushed together with very small worn quilts and covers. The crew were an unhappy and unhelpful bunch with a few exceptions, our cabins steward being one of them. I will never ever go on this ship again and would advise others to avoid it at all costs. Publication Date: 01/15/14[/p][/quote]The main point of note, being the fact the windows leaked water, showing the seals had most likely perished, and as such with a huge wave such as were being created during that Channel crossing, in the force 10 gale, meant that anyone sitting behind a window, hit by such a large wave would find themselves in mortal danger. Which was how this terrible, and fatal accident has unfolded. I hope the cruise line in question are held to account, some people with interests in such a company, might not like the connections made between leaking windows, and the window being stoved in, by a wave, but then if you shares in the said cruise company, any bad news might be suggested offensive...[/p][/quote]Really odd voting going on here? People with Multiple accounts no doubt Living the La Vida Legra

7:43pm Sun 16 Feb 14

tophat27dt says...

Yes..they are idiots with multi accounts..I have asked the Echo to delete the thumbs up/down thing..but they have ignored the issue.
Yes..they are idiots with multi accounts..I have asked the Echo to delete the thumbs up/down thing..but they have ignored the issue. tophat27dt

12:59am Mon 17 Feb 14

runwellian says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
scrounger‎ wrote:
When I was in the merchant navy in the 60's as soon as there was rough weather all the ships iron dead lights were screwed down over the port holes to stop something like this happening. This could mean days without any natural light but was safe.
Im afraid to say the Marco Polo is the Paupers cruise ship, which is fit for the scrap heap, but alas, thar she blows, as another bunch of working class over fifties, clamber aboard, for their budget trip abroad...
Somebody died on this ship, do you have to be so insensitive?
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrounger‎[/bold] wrote: When I was in the merchant navy in the 60's as soon as there was rough weather all the ships iron dead lights were screwed down over the port holes to stop something like this happening. This could mean days without any natural light but was safe.[/p][/quote]Im afraid to say the Marco Polo is the Paupers cruise ship, which is fit for the scrap heap, but alas, thar she blows, as another bunch of working class over fifties, clamber aboard, for their budget trip abroad...[/p][/quote]Somebody died on this ship, do you have to be so insensitive? runwellian

10:17am Mon 17 Feb 14

Vange Resident says...

Condolences to the Swinstead Family. R.I.P
Condolences to the Swinstead Family. R.I.P Vange Resident

11:22am Tue 18 Feb 14

safety officer says...

My sincere condolences to Mrs Swinstead and her family. This unfortunate lady is still in shock and should be given time to grieve .Several people will testify to the circumstances of this sad but predictable occurrence. The English people should now wonder at the circumstances where it could be their parents or most likely grandparents were aboard a ship going through such a predictable storm. Some countries would prosecute if animals were shipped in that storm .The Greek owners who have the largest single share in the chartering company CMV were given notice before this event of the likelihood of its happening .There was it appears sickness on board for several days prior to the storm and people isolated ,but to quote another contributor-thar she blows.
My sincere condolences to Mrs Swinstead and her family. This unfortunate lady is still in shock and should be given time to grieve .Several people will testify to the circumstances of this sad but predictable occurrence. The English people should now wonder at the circumstances where it could be their parents or most likely grandparents were aboard a ship going through such a predictable storm. Some countries would prosecute if animals were shipped in that storm .The Greek owners who have the largest single share in the chartering company CMV were given notice before this event of the likelihood of its happening .There was it appears sickness on board for several days prior to the storm and people isolated ,but to quote another contributor-thar she blows. safety officer

11:52am Tue 18 Feb 14

safety officer says...

My condolences to Mrs Swinstead and her family.This unfortunate lady must be suffering from shock and should be given time to grieve. At The appropriate time there will I am sure be several witnesses to the unfortunate event who will give further testimony. People should realise that it could be their parents or most likely grandparents that were aboard a ship where in other jurisdictions it would be a criminal offence to have even animals shipped in a predictable storm .Your paper carried reports of CMV's other chartered ship Discovery being impounded last year for safety reasons and you will note the fact that the last charterers of Ocean Countess which went on fire in Greece last November were CMV. Perhaps "freak" occurrences is what their PR will say.
My condolences to Mrs Swinstead and her family.This unfortunate lady must be suffering from shock and should be given time to grieve. At The appropriate time there will I am sure be several witnesses to the unfortunate event who will give further testimony. People should realise that it could be their parents or most likely grandparents that were aboard a ship where in other jurisdictions it would be a criminal offence to have even animals shipped in a predictable storm .Your paper carried reports of CMV's other chartered ship Discovery being impounded last year for safety reasons and you will note the fact that the last charterers of Ocean Countess which went on fire in Greece last November were CMV. Perhaps "freak" occurrences is what their PR will say. safety officer

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