Save our lollipop patrols from chop in cash cuts

Basildon Recorder: Save our lollipop patrols from chop in cash cuts Save our lollipop patrols from chop in cash cuts

FUNDING for lollipop patrols could be axed, sparking fears for children’s safety.

School crossing patrols are among services being reviewed by County Hall in a bid to save taxpayer cash.

It is thought schools or communities could be asked to raise money for the patrols, as the Tory administration does not legally have to provide them.

Kerry Smith, Ukip county councillor for WestleyHeights, has campaigned for improved road safety measures outside schools across Basildon.

He said: “Whatever it costs for a lollipop lady is chicken feed compared to what County Hall wastes on other things, like consultants, and even its own staff.

“If it is looking at saving money, it should be looking elsewhere.

“Kids run across the road and don’t listen to warnings from their parents, so lollipop ladies are really important at busy school times.

“We have all had to stop quickly at some point to let a child cross the road. Axing the service could cause deaths.’’ Suffolk County Council faced a backlash from parents and teachers when it tried to scrap such funding.

Maureen Best, 77, has been a lollipop lady in Clay Hill Road, Basildon, for Cherry Tree Primary School, for 40 years.

She said: “I always get thanked by families. They are very appreciative of what I do, as is the school.

“There are quite a few lollipop ladies around Basildon and we help to teach children about traffic.

“I hope the county council keeps the funding. There are always rumours about funding cuts, but I wait until it happens before I start to worry about it. What will be will be.” The Tory administration at County Hall has already said it will look at all areas of spending to see where savings can be made.

A spokesman said: “Due to the economic climate and the pressure on local authority budgets, we are reviewing many aspects of public service delivery, particularly nonstatutory services.

“In relation to any changes to school crossing patrols, no formal decisions have been made.

“Should there be any changes to the service, wewill informand consult with schools and employees as soon as we have any proposals.”

Some county council services which do not legally have to be provided are moving to a model where they will be offered if they return a profit, or are run by the voluntary sector

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8:04am Wed 5 Mar 14

Happy Chickie says...

“Kids run across the road and don’t listen to warnings from their parents, so lollipop ladies are really important at busy school times"


What a stupid comment.
“Kids run across the road and don’t listen to warnings from their parents, so lollipop ladies are really important at busy school times" What a stupid comment. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 3

8:43am Wed 5 Mar 14

rayleigh123 says...

---- A spokesman said: “Due to the economic climate and the pressure on local authority budgets, we are reviewing many aspects of public service delivery, particularly nonstatutory services. ----

Bottom line this means our kids lives are worth zero to the council.


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---- A spokesman said: “Due to the economic climate and the pressure on local authority budgets, we are reviewing many aspects of public service delivery, particularly nonstatutory services. ---- Bottom line this means our kids lives are worth zero to the council. . . rayleigh123
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8:49am Wed 5 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Dispense with them, and have controlled traffic signal crossings, this is 2014, not 1934, and whilst it's all very quaint, remember the poor old lady, out in all weathers, with a feeling of guilt, should she have a day off, No the time has arrived to replace this cheap method of safety, to become a thing of the past, can you imagine Sweden shirking their responsibility of looking after young road crossers, to an elderly person..
Dispense with them, and have controlled traffic signal crossings, this is 2014, not 1934, and whilst it's all very quaint, remember the poor old lady, out in all weathers, with a feeling of guilt, should she have a day off, No the time has arrived to replace this cheap method of safety, to become a thing of the past, can you imagine Sweden shirking their responsibility of looking after young road crossers, to an elderly person.. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 4

9:29am Wed 5 Mar 14

BenfleetBarrel says...

UKIP propaganda nonsense.
UKIP propaganda nonsense. BenfleetBarrel
  • Score: 1

10:21am Wed 5 Mar 14

Jack222 says...

So parents cant take their kids across roads by themselves? How incompetent are these parents?

And yes typical UKIP propaganda rubbish.
So parents cant take their kids across roads by themselves? How incompetent are these parents? And yes typical UKIP propaganda rubbish. Jack222
  • Score: 5

11:47am Wed 5 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

And you're all so knowledgeable aren't you? Never stood for or held public office in your lives so what do you know? What's wrong with wanting more lollipop ladies to ensure accidents are prevented.

You're all so full of helpful suggestions aren't you?

If you can do better, why not stand for election and do something useful instead of spouting at those do.

Older children are often unaccompanied by parents and yes, they are usually road trained but if they get distracted by something there is a danger.

Crossing patrols have been around for years so obviously they are of some use.

And given the mentality of some of the lunatic drivers there are including the Echo website's own resident lunatic who regularly posts on here, there could well be more accidents.

You lot just spout off for the sake of it.

You never attend a council meeting, do not get involved in politics and basically do nothing except sit around here all day gobbing off at people who have put themselves out to do something for their community.

Go ahead and down arrow... which you always do when you know I am right and you don't like it.

Don't bother to comment. I only ever read random ones as you know and even then it's not worth the space it's written in.

I just respond because I know it gets up your noses.
And you're all so knowledgeable aren't you? Never stood for or held public office in your lives so what do you know? What's wrong with wanting more lollipop ladies to ensure accidents are prevented. You're all so full of helpful suggestions aren't you? If you can do better, why not stand for election and do something useful instead of spouting at those do. Older children are often unaccompanied by parents and yes, they are usually road trained but if they get distracted by something there is a danger. Crossing patrols have been around for years so obviously they are of some use. And given the mentality of some of the lunatic drivers there are including the Echo website's own resident lunatic who regularly posts on here, there could well be more accidents. You lot just spout off for the sake of it. You never attend a council meeting, do not get involved in politics and basically do nothing except sit around here all day gobbing off at people who have put themselves out to do something for their community. Go ahead and down arrow... which you always do when you know I am right and you don't like it. Don't bother to comment. I only ever read random ones as you know and even then it's not worth the space it's written in. I just respond because I know it gets up your noses. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -11

11:49am Wed 5 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

rayleigh123 wrote:
---- A spokesman said: “Due to the economic climate and the pressure on local authority budgets, we are reviewing many aspects of public service delivery, particularly nonstatutory services. ----

Bottom line this means our kids lives are worth zero to the council.


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Just one voice of commonsense, two if you count mine.

Take no notice of the rabble.
[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote: ---- A spokesman said: “Due to the economic climate and the pressure on local authority budgets, we are reviewing many aspects of public service delivery, particularly nonstatutory services. ---- Bottom line this means our kids lives are worth zero to the council. . .[/p][/quote]Just one voice of commonsense, two if you count mine. Take no notice of the rabble. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -10

1:05pm Wed 5 Mar 14

rayleigh123 says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
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Dispense with them, and have controlled traffic signal crossings, this is 2014, not 1934, and whilst it's all very quaint, remember the poor old lady, out in all weathers, with a feeling of guilt, should she have a day off, No the time has arrived to replace this cheap method of safety, to become a thing of the past, can you imagine Sweden shirking their responsibility of looking after young road crossers, to an elderly person..
Not sure that a 3 metre high black and white pole with a traffic light on the top can compete with a human being.

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[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Dispense with them, and have controlled traffic signal crossings, this is 2014, not 1934, and whilst it's all very quaint, remember the poor old lady, out in all weathers, with a feeling of guilt, should she have a day off, No the time has arrived to replace this cheap method of safety, to become a thing of the past, can you imagine Sweden shirking their responsibility of looking after young road crossers, to an elderly person..[/p][/quote]Not sure that a 3 metre high black and white pole with a traffic light on the top can compete with a human being. . . . rayleigh123
  • Score: -2

3:21pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Chris Flunk says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
And you're all so knowledgeable aren't you? Never stood for or held public office in your lives so what do you know? What's wrong with wanting more lollipop ladies to ensure accidents are prevented.

You're all so full of helpful suggestions aren't you?

If you can do better, why not stand for election and do something useful instead of spouting at those do.

Older children are often unaccompanied by parents and yes, they are usually road trained but if they get distracted by something there is a danger.

Crossing patrols have been around for years so obviously they are of some use.

And given the mentality of some of the lunatic drivers there are including the Echo website's own resident lunatic who regularly posts on here, there could well be more accidents.

You lot just spout off for the sake of it.

You never attend a council meeting, do not get involved in politics and basically do nothing except sit around here all day gobbing off at people who have put themselves out to do something for their community.

Go ahead and down arrow... which you always do when you know I am right and you don't like it.

Don't bother to comment. I only ever read random ones as you know and even then it's not worth the space it's written in.

I just respond because I know it gets up your noses.
Surely to be a politician you need to listen to the voice of the people. The very etymology of the word is "for the the people". It doesn't mean just spouting your (fortunately) minority view and refusing to debate with anyone who holds a differing opinion. The council have not said anything about stopping crossing attendants at this time. It's just one UKIP nut-job trying to score votes by sensationalising a regular review of non-statutory services.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: And you're all so knowledgeable aren't you? Never stood for or held public office in your lives so what do you know? What's wrong with wanting more lollipop ladies to ensure accidents are prevented. You're all so full of helpful suggestions aren't you? If you can do better, why not stand for election and do something useful instead of spouting at those do. Older children are often unaccompanied by parents and yes, they are usually road trained but if they get distracted by something there is a danger. Crossing patrols have been around for years so obviously they are of some use. And given the mentality of some of the lunatic drivers there are including the Echo website's own resident lunatic who regularly posts on here, there could well be more accidents. You lot just spout off for the sake of it. You never attend a council meeting, do not get involved in politics and basically do nothing except sit around here all day gobbing off at people who have put themselves out to do something for their community. Go ahead and down arrow... which you always do when you know I am right and you don't like it. Don't bother to comment. I only ever read random ones as you know and even then it's not worth the space it's written in. I just respond because I know it gets up your noses.[/p][/quote]Surely to be a politician you need to listen to the voice of the people. The very etymology of the word is "for the the people". It doesn't mean just spouting your (fortunately) minority view and refusing to debate with anyone who holds a differing opinion. The council have not said anything about stopping crossing attendants at this time. It's just one UKIP nut-job trying to score votes by sensationalising a regular review of non-statutory services. Chris Flunk
  • Score: 7

3:57pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Smudgie Bugglers says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
And you're all so knowledgeable aren't you? Never stood for or held public office in your lives so what do you know? What's wrong with wanting more lollipop ladies to ensure accidents are prevented. You're all so full of helpful suggestions aren't you? If you can do better, why not stand for election and do something useful instead of spouting at those do. Older children are often unaccompanied by parents and yes, they are usually road trained but if they get distracted by something there is a danger. Crossing patrols have been around for years so obviously they are of some use. And given the mentality of some of the lunatic drivers there are including the Echo website's own resident lunatic who regularly posts on here, there could well be more accidents. You lot just spout off for the sake of it. You never attend a council meeting, do not get involved in politics and basically do nothing except sit around here all day gobbing off at people who have put themselves out to do something for their community. Go ahead and down arrow... which you always do when you know I am right and you don't like it. Don't bother to comment. I only ever read random ones as you know and even then it's not worth the space it's written in. I just respond because I know it gets up your noses.
You're right, I never attend council meetings, as they generally are held in the evenings. Unfortunately I am housebound at this time due to the lack of lollipop ladies available to escort me after 15:30. This is a very serious problem indeed and I think an army of lollipop ladies is the only solution.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: And you're all so knowledgeable aren't you? Never stood for or held public office in your lives so what do you know? What's wrong with wanting more lollipop ladies to ensure accidents are prevented. You're all so full of helpful suggestions aren't you? If you can do better, why not stand for election and do something useful instead of spouting at those do. Older children are often unaccompanied by parents and yes, they are usually road trained but if they get distracted by something there is a danger. Crossing patrols have been around for years so obviously they are of some use. And given the mentality of some of the lunatic drivers there are including the Echo website's own resident lunatic who regularly posts on here, there could well be more accidents. You lot just spout off for the sake of it. You never attend a council meeting, do not get involved in politics and basically do nothing except sit around here all day gobbing off at people who have put themselves out to do something for their community. Go ahead and down arrow... which you always do when you know I am right and you don't like it. Don't bother to comment. I only ever read random ones as you know and even then it's not worth the space it's written in. I just respond because I know it gets up your noses.[/p][/quote]You're right, I never attend council meetings, as they generally are held in the evenings. Unfortunately I am housebound at this time due to the lack of lollipop ladies available to escort me after 15:30. This is a very serious problem indeed and I think an army of lollipop ladies is the only solution. Smudgie Bugglers
  • Score: 8

11:06pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

Haven't read the rest of the comments but noticed the thumbs downs.

I love it when I see I have wound up you lefties so bad you respond. It really rattles you when I'm right and you're wrong. And it's so eaaaseeee!

;D
Haven't read the rest of the comments but noticed the thumbs downs. I love it when I see I have wound up you lefties so bad you respond. It really rattles you when I'm right and you're wrong. And it's so eaaaseeee! ;D Kim Gandy
  • Score: -5

9:07am Thu 6 Mar 14

Smudgie Bugglers says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Haven't read the rest of the comments but noticed the thumbs downs. I love it when I see I have wound up you lefties so bad you respond. It really rattles you when I'm right and you're wrong. And it's so eaaaseeee! ;D
I was also taken in by this story the first time I read it, but then again I am rather slow, gullible and quite dim. Try reading it again a few more times, check for any important missing facts and maybe some assumed conclusions. Hopefully the penny will drop for you too. Good luck!
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Haven't read the rest of the comments but noticed the thumbs downs. I love it when I see I have wound up you lefties so bad you respond. It really rattles you when I'm right and you're wrong. And it's so eaaaseeee! ;D[/p][/quote]I was also taken in by this story the first time I read it, but then again I am rather slow, gullible and quite dim. Try reading it again a few more times, check for any important missing facts and maybe some assumed conclusions. Hopefully the penny will drop for you too. Good luck! Smudgie Bugglers
  • Score: 3

9:14am Thu 6 Mar 14

BenfleetBarrel says...

So the article could be condensed to: "The council are reviewing nonstatutory services". Which is something they should be doing at all times. So in fact the story could be condensed further to "There is no news today".
So the article could be condensed to: "The council are reviewing nonstatutory services". Which is something they should be doing at all times. So in fact the story could be condensed further to "There is no news today". BenfleetBarrel
  • Score: 4

10:40am Thu 6 Mar 14

Chris Flunk says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Haven't read the rest of the comments but noticed the thumbs downs.

I love it when I see I have wound up you lefties so bad you respond. It really rattles you when I'm right and you're wrong. And it's so eaaaseeee!

;D
Don't call me a leftie. You have no idea of my political bias, it just suits your narrow little mind to try to pigeon-hole people so that you can dismiss them without engaging them. I wouldn't label you with any political stereotype but then that's more because there isn't just one party that represents the ignorant and deluded.

You're just not right in this case, you haven't even said anything about the article other than "lollipop ladies are good and bad drivers are bad". I don't think anyone contradicted that. Then to ramble on about having no opinion unless you are a politician is just lunacy.

Everyone is involved in politics, every part of our lives is affected by politics, everyone (even you and I wish you weren't) is entitled to an opinion. Just because you once stood for office for some bunch of fringe nationalists and lost your deposit (wasn't it 1% of the vote?) that doesn't make your opinion any more important or valid. If anything, it proves you are completely out of touch with the majority of people in this area.

Perhaps if you spent more time listening to people rather than trying to tell them what to think, you'd have a better chance of success in another election.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Haven't read the rest of the comments but noticed the thumbs downs. I love it when I see I have wound up you lefties so bad you respond. It really rattles you when I'm right and you're wrong. And it's so eaaaseeee! ;D[/p][/quote]Don't call me a leftie. You have no idea of my political bias, it just suits your narrow little mind to try to pigeon-hole people so that you can dismiss them without engaging them. I wouldn't label you with any political stereotype but then that's more because there isn't just one party that represents the ignorant and deluded. You're just not right in this case, you haven't even said anything about the article other than "lollipop ladies are good and bad drivers are bad". I don't think anyone contradicted that. Then to ramble on about having no opinion unless you are a politician is just lunacy. Everyone is involved in politics, every part of our lives is affected by politics, everyone (even you and I wish you weren't) is entitled to an opinion. Just because you once stood for office for some bunch of fringe nationalists and lost your deposit (wasn't it 1% of the vote?) that doesn't make your opinion any more important or valid. If anything, it proves you are completely out of touch with the majority of people in this area. Perhaps if you spent more time listening to people rather than trying to tell them what to think, you'd have a better chance of success in another election. Chris Flunk
  • Score: 4

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