Anti green belt homes campaigners in Billericay launch own consultation

Basildon Recorder: Anti green belt homes campaigners launch own consultation Anti green belt homes campaigners launch own consultation

CAMPAIGNERS fighting plans to build thousands of homes near Billericay have launched their own consultation on the proposals – with the aim of getting thousands of people involved.

Residents have been recruiting supporters among commuters at Billericay station and the Queen’s Park Co-op store, and leaving leaflets in local schools and shops.

The aim is to persuade people in the town to revolt against proposals in Basildon Council’s Local Plan document, which they fear will practically join together Basildon and Billericay.

The Local Plan will decide where new development will got in the borough between now and 2031. It sets out sites for 12,500 homes across the borough – the council’s response to Government pressure to allow more homes to be built.

Among its proposals is one to allow 2,300 homes are built in three green belt sites around Billericay.

Hundreds of people packed two Billericay Town Council meetings to protest at the plans, claiming they hadn’t realised they were on the table and angry about a lack of consultation.

The council’s formal consultation on the plan gives residents until April 1 to give their views to the council.

However, campaigners were worried not enough people would take part, so put together their own simplified survey to rally support against green belt development.

One of the organisers, Mike Andrews, of Outwood Farm Road, Billericay, said: “If Basildon does what the Government wants it to do, Billericay won’t be Billericay any more.

“To fight the Government, Basildon Council needs ammunition, so we have to give it evidence to support our assertion what it is planning isn’t the way forward.

“The response we have had has been encouraging. We are seeing a growth of interest, but some people don’t have the time or inclination to analyse all the documents.

We are trying to be helpful, to encourage as many responses as possible.”

The campaigners’ leaflet asks whether residents agree with plans for the extra homes and seeks detailed comments via a tick-box list.

They have also set upawebsite at ebgb2014.co.uk, to inform residents on the ways they can object to the proposals.

Campaigners are also looking into the possibility of setting up a referendum to give the whole borough a say on the issue.

They will be running stalls from 9am morning outside the Chequers pub in Billericay High Street, and Spa Cottage, in Chapel Street, to hand out leaflets and talk to residents.

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7:49am Sat 29 Mar 14

Kim, Gandy says...

Im afraid these homes will be built, it's only a shame children have been used to attempt to justify their cause.
Im afraid these homes will be built, it's only a shame children have been used to attempt to justify their cause. Kim, Gandy
  • Score: -5

9:37am Sat 29 Mar 14

Rich;'Carol says...

Kim, Gandy wrote:
Im afraid these homes will be built, it's only a shame children have been used to attempt to justify their cause.
What kind of parents would brainwash their own kids ???
[quote][p][bold]Kim, Gandy[/bold] wrote: Im afraid these homes will be built, it's only a shame children have been used to attempt to justify their cause.[/p][/quote]What kind of parents would brainwash their own kids ??? Rich;'Carol
  • Score: 0

9:56am Sat 29 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

The irony is, that without the new builds future protests wont happen, as there wont be any children to hold those placards...
The irony is, that without the new builds future protests wont happen, as there wont be any children to hold those placards... carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -8

12:49pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Billericay Pete says...

As a parent of one of the children in the photo and present myself, I'm qualified to respond. My other child decided to stay out of the photo as he is still considering his stance - absolutely his prerogative. These children care about their town and environment and are learning that there are times when you just have to make your voice heard and stand up for what you believe in- this is all part of democracy.

It is relevant to involve them in this photo because ultimately this is about their future and the legacy that this generation passes down to them - just as our predecessors developed the concept of the greenbelt to protect future generations from urban sprawl.

It isn't just about Billericay, it's about the borough as a whole and large areas of greenbelt that are under threat.

The people in this photo are keen to ensure that as many Billericay Residents as possible are aware of the proposals (many still are not, despite the consultation) and have the opportunity to 'have their say' before it is too late.

Kim, you are always saying on here that people should stop sitting around complaining and get out there and do something and this what we are doing.

Houses are important and the borough was already planning to build thousands, but there has to be a balance. Quality of life and the environment are also vital to the health and wellbeing of all local communities.
As a parent of one of the children in the photo and present myself, I'm qualified to respond. My other child decided to stay out of the photo as he is still considering his stance - absolutely his prerogative. These children care about their town and environment and are learning that there are times when you just have to make your voice heard and stand up for what you believe in- this is all part of democracy. It is relevant to involve them in this photo because ultimately this is about their future and the legacy that this generation passes down to them - just as our predecessors developed the concept of the greenbelt to protect future generations from urban sprawl. It isn't just about Billericay, it's about the borough as a whole and large areas of greenbelt that are under threat. The people in this photo are keen to ensure that as many Billericay Residents as possible are aware of the proposals (many still are not, despite the consultation) and have the opportunity to 'have their say' before it is too late. Kim, you are always saying on here that people should stop sitting around complaining and get out there and do something and this what we are doing. Houses are important and the borough was already planning to build thousands, but there has to be a balance. Quality of life and the environment are also vital to the health and wellbeing of all local communities. Billericay Pete
  • Score: 8

1:01pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Howard Cháse says...

Haven't the people of Billericay had the same chance to comme t on the future development of the area that the people of Basildon, Laindon and Pitsea had recently when the Council put forward their preferred plans and gave the population the chance to fill in a questionnaire with room for their comments ?
Haven't the people of Billericay had the same chance to comme t on the future development of the area that the people of Basildon, Laindon and Pitsea had recently when the Council put forward their preferred plans and gave the population the chance to fill in a questionnaire with room for their comments ? Howard Cháse
  • Score: 2

1:44pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Billericay Pete says...

Howard, as I said above, maybe you missed it, "many are still not" (aware of the proposals) or realise that they can have a say. Either people are too busy, have missed the news/consultation documentation or, let's be fair here... don't care either way.
We're about ensuring people have the correct visibility of what is being planned and don't miss their chance.
I am astounded by all the negativeness in the above comments though, I was expecting rocks from government officials, planners and excited building companies, not from fellow citizens, whom I would have thought all shared a vested interest in assuring a say in their local communities.
Howard, as I said above, maybe you missed it, "many are still not" (aware of the proposals) or realise that they can have a say. Either people are too busy, have missed the news/consultation documentation or, let's be fair here... don't care either way. We're about ensuring people have the correct visibility of what is being planned and don't miss their chance. I am astounded by all the negativeness in the above comments though, I was expecting rocks from government officials, planners and excited building companies, not from fellow citizens, whom I would have thought all shared a vested interest in assuring a say in their local communities. Billericay Pete
  • Score: 1

5:15pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

Well done to these campaigners - I wish them every success. Groups like this and the Rayleigh Action Group are doing excellent work.

Of course they are let down by our local councils who lack the balls / backbone to tell our concrete-loving government to get lost with their crazy plans to smother this once green country in filthy shoeboxes.

The medium / long-term solution is obvious - the absurd growth in the population must be stopped. A complete stop to immigration would be a good start. Of course the lefties and liberals will screech and shout their usual abuse - it is their way - as they tell us how immigration "enriches" our country. They may even come out with the one word that ALWAYS proves they have lost an argument - "racist". Lefties / liberals are nothing if not predictable.

The one hope at the moment looks like UKIP. They just MAY offer an alternative to the anti-environmental dogma of the concrete-loving major parties.
Well done to these campaigners - I wish them every success. Groups like this and the Rayleigh Action Group are doing excellent work. Of course they are let down by our local councils who lack the balls / backbone to tell our concrete-loving government to get lost with their crazy plans to smother this once green country in filthy shoeboxes. The medium / long-term solution is obvious - the absurd growth in the population must be stopped. A complete stop to immigration would be a good start. Of course the lefties and liberals will screech and shout their usual abuse - it is their way - as they tell us how immigration "enriches" our country. They may even come out with the one word that ALWAYS proves they have lost an argument - "racist". Lefties / liberals are nothing if not predictable. The one hope at the moment looks like UKIP. They just MAY offer an alternative to the anti-environmental dogma of the concrete-loving major parties. Sensible Man
  • Score: 4

11:01am Sun 30 Mar 14

poortaxpayer says...

This really does make me laugh. The Conservative voting folk of Billericay are going to have thousands of homes built on their Green Belt by the Conservative led Basildon Council.

The Conservative led Government has weakened planning rules to allow more development in the Green Belt.

And these idiots in Billericay like Turkeys voting for Christmas continue to vote for Conservative MPs and Conservative Councillors.

It is by voting Conservative that has opened up their Green Belt for developer by the Conservatives developer friends. These folk have got what they have voted for and I have no sympathy with them whatsoever.

They are the stupid idiots that voted in Conservative politicians who then shafted their loyal voters by attempting to concrete over vast swathes of their Green Belt.

If you really want to show your politicians how angry you are then give them a kick in the ballot box in the forthcoming elections. Losing their seat and their nice expenses and allowances is the only language they understand.
This really does make me laugh. The Conservative voting folk of Billericay are going to have thousands of homes built on their Green Belt by the Conservative led Basildon Council. The Conservative led Government has weakened planning rules to allow more development in the Green Belt. And these idiots in Billericay like Turkeys voting for Christmas continue to vote for Conservative MPs and Conservative Councillors. It is by voting Conservative that has opened up their Green Belt for developer by the Conservatives developer friends. These folk have got what they have voted for and I have no sympathy with them whatsoever. They are the stupid idiots that voted in Conservative politicians who then shafted their loyal voters by attempting to concrete over vast swathes of their Green Belt. If you really want to show your politicians how angry you are then give them a kick in the ballot box in the forthcoming elections. Losing their seat and their nice expenses and allowances is the only language they understand. poortaxpayer
  • Score: 2

4:32pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

poortaxpayer wrote:
This really does make me laugh. The Conservative voting folk of Billericay are going to have thousands of homes built on their Green Belt by the Conservative led Basildon Council.

The Conservative led Government has weakened planning rules to allow more development in the Green Belt.

And these idiots in Billericay like Turkeys voting for Christmas continue to vote for Conservative MPs and Conservative Councillors.

It is by voting Conservative that has opened up their Green Belt for developer by the Conservatives developer friends. These folk have got what they have voted for and I have no sympathy with them whatsoever.

They are the stupid idiots that voted in Conservative politicians who then shafted their loyal voters by attempting to concrete over vast swathes of their Green Belt.

If you really want to show your politicians how angry you are then give them a kick in the ballot box in the forthcoming elections. Losing their seat and their nice expenses and allowances is the only language they understand.
poortaxpayer -

If I may say so - that is a very good post!!! I really do not understand how the Conservative Party has changed so quickly from a party that protected the Green Belt to some pathetic shower who just cave in to the shoebox merchants time and time again. No shortage of filthy proposals to illustrate this - 500 in Hall Road, Rochford, 700+ in Rawreth Lane, even plans to massively expand Hullbridge for God's sake.

I have always been a Conservative voter but - now they have turned into the Shoebox Worshipping Party - NEVER AGAIN!! I hope they get smashed at the Euro elections in May.

Mr. Cameron - THIS TINY ISLAND IS RAMMED!!! DO SOMETHING!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: This really does make me laugh. The Conservative voting folk of Billericay are going to have thousands of homes built on their Green Belt by the Conservative led Basildon Council. The Conservative led Government has weakened planning rules to allow more development in the Green Belt. And these idiots in Billericay like Turkeys voting for Christmas continue to vote for Conservative MPs and Conservative Councillors. It is by voting Conservative that has opened up their Green Belt for developer by the Conservatives developer friends. These folk have got what they have voted for and I have no sympathy with them whatsoever. They are the stupid idiots that voted in Conservative politicians who then shafted their loyal voters by attempting to concrete over vast swathes of their Green Belt. If you really want to show your politicians how angry you are then give them a kick in the ballot box in the forthcoming elections. Losing their seat and their nice expenses and allowances is the only language they understand.[/p][/quote]poortaxpayer - If I may say so - that is a very good post!!! I really do not understand how the Conservative Party has changed so quickly from a party that protected the Green Belt to some pathetic shower who just cave in to the shoebox merchants time and time again. No shortage of filthy proposals to illustrate this - 500 in Hall Road, Rochford, 700+ in Rawreth Lane, even plans to massively expand Hullbridge for God's sake. I have always been a Conservative voter but - now they have turned into the Shoebox Worshipping Party - NEVER AGAIN!! I hope they get smashed at the Euro elections in May. Mr. Cameron - THIS TINY ISLAND IS RAMMED!!! DO SOMETHING!!!!! Sensible Man
  • Score: 2

6:30pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Save what little greenbelt we have says...

Who do these people think they are! Getting off their backside and actually doing something. They should just sit in front of their computers and moan like most of users above.
Who do these people think they are! Getting off their backside and actually doing something. They should just sit in front of their computers and moan like most of users above. Save what little greenbelt we have
  • Score: 5

11:01pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ironman says...

It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) .

Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc)

I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though.

But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby.

Funny ol' world.

At the end of the day, it's all about money.
It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) . Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc) I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though. But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby. Funny ol' world. At the end of the day, it's all about money. Ironman
  • Score: 4

7:49am Mon 31 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Kim, Gandy wrote:
Im afraid these homes will be built, it's only a shame children have been used to attempt to justify their cause.
Yes they might be built, but please refrain yet again, from insulting these kids.
[quote][p][bold]Kim, Gandy[/bold] wrote: Im afraid these homes will be built, it's only a shame children have been used to attempt to justify their cause.[/p][/quote]Yes they might be built, but please refrain yet again, from insulting these kids. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 0

9:42am Mon 31 Mar 14

beverman says...

Billericay Pete wrote:
As a parent of one of the children in the photo and present myself, I'm qualified to respond. My other child decided to stay out of the photo as he is still considering his stance - absolutely his prerogative. These children care about their town and environment and are learning that there are times when you just have to make your voice heard and stand up for what you believe in- this is all part of democracy.

It is relevant to involve them in this photo because ultimately this is about their future and the legacy that this generation passes down to them - just as our predecessors developed the concept of the greenbelt to protect future generations from urban sprawl.

It isn't just about Billericay, it's about the borough as a whole and large areas of greenbelt that are under threat.

The people in this photo are keen to ensure that as many Billericay Residents as possible are aware of the proposals (many still are not, despite the consultation) and have the opportunity to 'have their say' before it is too late.

Kim, you are always saying on here that people should stop sitting around complaining and get out there and do something and this what we are doing.

Houses are important and the borough was already planning to build thousands, but there has to be a balance. Quality of life and the environment are also vital to the health and wellbeing of all local communities.
These same children won't have anywhere to live in 20 years time when they have grown up because Mummy and Daddy didn't want to spoil the view from the kitchen window.
[quote][p][bold]Billericay Pete[/bold] wrote: As a parent of one of the children in the photo and present myself, I'm qualified to respond. My other child decided to stay out of the photo as he is still considering his stance - absolutely his prerogative. These children care about their town and environment and are learning that there are times when you just have to make your voice heard and stand up for what you believe in- this is all part of democracy. It is relevant to involve them in this photo because ultimately this is about their future and the legacy that this generation passes down to them - just as our predecessors developed the concept of the greenbelt to protect future generations from urban sprawl. It isn't just about Billericay, it's about the borough as a whole and large areas of greenbelt that are under threat. The people in this photo are keen to ensure that as many Billericay Residents as possible are aware of the proposals (many still are not, despite the consultation) and have the opportunity to 'have their say' before it is too late. Kim, you are always saying on here that people should stop sitting around complaining and get out there and do something and this what we are doing. Houses are important and the borough was already planning to build thousands, but there has to be a balance. Quality of life and the environment are also vital to the health and wellbeing of all local communities.[/p][/quote]These same children won't have anywhere to live in 20 years time when they have grown up because Mummy and Daddy didn't want to spoil the view from the kitchen window. beverman
  • Score: 8

12:50pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Ironman wrote:
It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) .

Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc)

I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though.

But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby.

Funny ol' world.

At the end of the day, it's all about money.
Grimley wasn't alone...he had squads of bigoted minded people behind him..btw the people at DF ancestors were documented here in parish records from the 11th century!

Any idea when your ancestors fetched up on the beaches?
[quote][p][bold]Ironman[/bold] wrote: It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) . Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc) I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though. But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby. Funny ol' world. At the end of the day, it's all about money.[/p][/quote]Grimley wasn't alone...he had squads of bigoted minded people behind him..btw the people at DF ancestors were documented here in parish records from the 11th century! Any idea when your ancestors fetched up on the beaches? ThisYear
  • Score: 0

1:03pm Mon 31 Mar 14

pembury53 says...

beverman wrote:
Billericay Pete wrote: As a parent of one of the children in the photo and present myself, I'm qualified to respond. My other child decided to stay out of the photo as he is still considering his stance - absolutely his prerogative. These children care about their town and environment and are learning that there are times when you just have to make your voice heard and stand up for what you believe in- this is all part of democracy. It is relevant to involve them in this photo because ultimately this is about their future and the legacy that this generation passes down to them - just as our predecessors developed the concept of the greenbelt to protect future generations from urban sprawl. It isn't just about Billericay, it's about the borough as a whole and large areas of greenbelt that are under threat. The people in this photo are keen to ensure that as many Billericay Residents as possible are aware of the proposals (many still are not, despite the consultation) and have the opportunity to 'have their say' before it is too late. Kim, you are always saying on here that people should stop sitting around complaining and get out there and do something and this what we are doing. Houses are important and the borough was already planning to build thousands, but there has to be a balance. Quality of life and the environment are also vital to the health and wellbeing of all local communities.
These same children won't have anywhere to live in 20 years time when they have grown up because Mummy and Daddy didn't want to spoil the view from the kitchen window.
a common misconception.... do you really think that all these new homes will somehow be 'reserved' for local people ? all this massive building program will acheive is an increase in the local population as thousands see an new opportunity to live in the south east, mainly leaving london...... in 20 years time the housing shortage will be even more desperate than it already is today....... without regional development plans to try and spread the population further north, no amount of building here will achieve anything positive for local people whatsoever.......
[quote][p][bold]beverman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billericay Pete[/bold] wrote: As a parent of one of the children in the photo and present myself, I'm qualified to respond. My other child decided to stay out of the photo as he is still considering his stance - absolutely his prerogative. These children care about their town and environment and are learning that there are times when you just have to make your voice heard and stand up for what you believe in- this is all part of democracy. It is relevant to involve them in this photo because ultimately this is about their future and the legacy that this generation passes down to them - just as our predecessors developed the concept of the greenbelt to protect future generations from urban sprawl. It isn't just about Billericay, it's about the borough as a whole and large areas of greenbelt that are under threat. The people in this photo are keen to ensure that as many Billericay Residents as possible are aware of the proposals (many still are not, despite the consultation) and have the opportunity to 'have their say' before it is too late. Kim, you are always saying on here that people should stop sitting around complaining and get out there and do something and this what we are doing. Houses are important and the borough was already planning to build thousands, but there has to be a balance. Quality of life and the environment are also vital to the health and wellbeing of all local communities.[/p][/quote]These same children won't have anywhere to live in 20 years time when they have grown up because Mummy and Daddy didn't want to spoil the view from the kitchen window.[/p][/quote]a common misconception.... do you really think that all these new homes will somehow be 'reserved' for local people ? all this massive building program will acheive is an increase in the local population as thousands see an new opportunity to live in the south east, mainly leaving london...... in 20 years time the housing shortage will be even more desperate than it already is today....... without regional development plans to try and spread the population further north, no amount of building here will achieve anything positive for local people whatsoever....... pembury53
  • Score: 1

8:00pm Mon 31 Mar 14

poortaxpayer says...

ThisYear wrote:
Ironman wrote:
It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) .

Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc)

I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though.

But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby.

Funny ol' world.

At the end of the day, it's all about money.
Grimley wasn't alone...he had squads of bigoted minded people behind him..btw the people at DF ancestors were documented here in parish records from the 11th century!

Any idea when your ancestors fetched up on the beaches?
Please don't lie to make your argument. There are no Billericay Parish records from the 11th century. Parish record keeping only started in England in 1537 and they do not list the ethnic origin of those being baptised - just names and sometimes occupation. It would also be highly unlikely that Irish Catholics would show in Church of England Parish records.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ironman[/bold] wrote: It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) . Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc) I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though. But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby. Funny ol' world. At the end of the day, it's all about money.[/p][/quote]Grimley wasn't alone...he had squads of bigoted minded people behind him..btw the people at DF ancestors were documented here in parish records from the 11th century! Any idea when your ancestors fetched up on the beaches?[/p][/quote]Please don't lie to make your argument. There are no Billericay Parish records from the 11th century. Parish record keeping only started in England in 1537 and they do not list the ethnic origin of those being baptised - just names and sometimes occupation. It would also be highly unlikely that Irish Catholics would show in Church of England Parish records. poortaxpayer
  • Score: 3

9:53pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

poortaxpayer wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Ironman wrote:
It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) .

Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc)

I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though.

But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby.

Funny ol' world.

At the end of the day, it's all about money.
Grimley wasn't alone...he had squads of bigoted minded people behind him..btw the people at DF ancestors were documented here in parish records from the 11th century!

Any idea when your ancestors fetched up on the beaches?
Please don't lie to make your argument. There are no Billericay Parish records from the 11th century. Parish record keeping only started in England in 1537 and they do not list the ethnic origin of those being baptised - just names and sometimes occupation. It would also be highly unlikely that Irish Catholics would show in Church of England Parish records.
Please dont accuse me of lying because of your assumptions, I never said the records referred to were in Billericay or indeed Essex!

Of course the term 'parish' might not be the word at the time but it is now and thats the term I use..

What great documentation took place at that time?

Go research it and see what it contains..
[quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ironman[/bold] wrote: It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) . Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc) I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though. But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby. Funny ol' world. At the end of the day, it's all about money.[/p][/quote]Grimley wasn't alone...he had squads of bigoted minded people behind him..btw the people at DF ancestors were documented here in parish records from the 11th century! Any idea when your ancestors fetched up on the beaches?[/p][/quote]Please don't lie to make your argument. There are no Billericay Parish records from the 11th century. Parish record keeping only started in England in 1537 and they do not list the ethnic origin of those being baptised - just names and sometimes occupation. It would also be highly unlikely that Irish Catholics would show in Church of England Parish records.[/p][/quote]Please dont accuse me of lying because of your assumptions, I never said the records referred to were in Billericay or indeed Essex! Of course the term 'parish' might not be the word at the time but it is now and thats the term I use.. What great documentation took place at that time? Go research it and see what it contains.. ThisYear
  • Score: -2

11:08am Tue 1 Apr 14

poortaxpayer says...

ThisYear wrote:
poortaxpayer wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Ironman wrote:
It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) .

Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc)

I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though.

But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby.

Funny ol' world.

At the end of the day, it's all about money.
Grimley wasn't alone...he had squads of bigoted minded people behind him..btw the people at DF ancestors were documented here in parish records from the 11th century!

Any idea when your ancestors fetched up on the beaches?
Please don't lie to make your argument. There are no Billericay Parish records from the 11th century. Parish record keeping only started in England in 1537 and they do not list the ethnic origin of those being baptised - just names and sometimes occupation. It would also be highly unlikely that Irish Catholics would show in Church of England Parish records.
Please dont accuse me of lying because of your assumptions, I never said the records referred to were in Billericay or indeed Essex!

Of course the term 'parish' might not be the word at the time but it is now and thats the term I use..

What great documentation took place at that time?

Go research it and see what it contains..
1505 is the first record of Gypsies in Britain. Go do some research. Please don't lie and make things up to try and win an argument because your lies will be exposed and you will be owned.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ironman[/bold] wrote: It always strikes me as funny when people protest about something in the interests of the common good but you only hear from them when their immediate enviroment is threatened (remember Len Gridley standing alone against the nomadic tribes from Ireland) . Lets be honest and admit we are all nimbys and just want the status quo (yes, I hear the words like roads, sewers, hospitals etc, etc) I went to school in Billericay in the 50's. It was a wonderful town then. The the future happened and I have now lived in 4 new (ish) houses that were not there in the 50's. I'm glad someone built them though. But guess what? I'm now morphing into a Nimby. Funny ol' world. At the end of the day, it's all about money.[/p][/quote]Grimley wasn't alone...he had squads of bigoted minded people behind him..btw the people at DF ancestors were documented here in parish records from the 11th century! Any idea when your ancestors fetched up on the beaches?[/p][/quote]Please don't lie to make your argument. There are no Billericay Parish records from the 11th century. Parish record keeping only started in England in 1537 and they do not list the ethnic origin of those being baptised - just names and sometimes occupation. It would also be highly unlikely that Irish Catholics would show in Church of England Parish records.[/p][/quote]Please dont accuse me of lying because of your assumptions, I never said the records referred to were in Billericay or indeed Essex! Of course the term 'parish' might not be the word at the time but it is now and thats the term I use.. What great documentation took place at that time? Go research it and see what it contains..[/p][/quote]1505 is the first record of Gypsies in Britain. Go do some research. Please don't lie and make things up to try and win an argument because your lies will be exposed and you will be owned. poortaxpayer
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