Teachers tell bullied kids: Don't be so gay (From Basildon Recorder)
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Teachers tell bullied kids: Don't be so gay
7:30am Wednesday 2nd November 2011 in News
Exclusive By Stephen Hackwell
TEACHERS allegedly told bullied children to act “less gay” if they want to end their torment.
In a damning report by Essex County Council, pupils revealed they had been accused of making themselves a target for bullies by choosing to behave or look differently.
As well as criticising their supposed sexuality, teachers reportedly told youngsters to “wear their hair differently” if they wanted to avoid trouble.
The comments have been met with outrage by anti-bullying campaigners and gay and lesbian support groups across the county.
Jordan Newell, 27, the Colchester Labour Party chairman and a member of the Labour Campaign for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered Rights, said: “I am incredibly shocked at this report.
“It is incredibly stark and paints a picture that teachers are holding up their hands and not defending pupils who are expressing their difference and they are failing to defend some pretty basic principles in terms of bullying and anti-bullying.
“I think the report shows a complete lack of understanding of the issue and on how to tackle bullies.”
Actress Kierston Wareing, 33, from Leigh, recently spoke about being bullied at school. She said: “You can get bullied for anything, whether it is because you are too fat, too thin, too pretty or too ugly.
“You should be able to be your own person.
“There is no excuse for bullying and teachers should put a stop to it.”
The pupils spoke out at a meeting for more than 250 children and teachers from schools across the county, hosted by the county council, to tackle issues affecting youngsters.
As well as being accused of being insensitive by pupils, teachers also admitted they had received “very little”
training in how to deal with bullies.
A 14-year-old pupil at Chase High School in Westcliff, who did not want to be named, said: “I’ve been bullied, and the teachers didn’t do much about it.
“It’s not that they didn’t want to help. They just didn’t know how.”
A spokesman for charity Beatbullying said pupils needed support from teachers so they could be “free to be who they are”, and Jerry Glazier, Essex general secretary for the National Union of Teachers, labelled the alleged comments “inappropriate”.
The pressure young people face in coming out has been shown in EastEnders where teenager Ben Mitchell plucked up the courage to tell his dad, Phil, who reacted badly to the news.
An Essex County Council spokesperson said: “The council takes bullying very seriously and would hope all teachers are sensible in giving the right advice to pupils.
“The Young Essex Assembly held a conference to allow children to talk in an open and constructive environment about bullying within schools.
“All the information and anecdotal evidence gathered at the event will shape the work of the Young Essex Assembly.
“As a result, it is developing an anti-bullying information pack, which will be given to trainee teachers to help them cope with this serious issue.”
Comments(56)
Dr A Grass
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9:32am Wed 2 Nov 11
APR
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10:02am Wed 2 Nov 11
Dr A Grass wrote:It does to me too.
"TEACHERS allegedly told bullied children to act “less gay” if they want to end their torment." Seems a pretty fair comment to me!
I just don't see the problem.
hayburner
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10:41am Wed 2 Nov 11
Over here if a teacher made that comment they would be GONE.
As someone who grew up the source of jokes and bullying because I was "too quiet", and "a geek", I can tell you that it doesn't take having your head flushed down the toilet to make a person feel scared to go to school.
The parents of the kids doing the bullying are the ones who need to take responsibility for their kids' actions. They are the ones raising jerks. Teach your children to respect one another regardless of differences. I do this every day with my daughter and I hope she grows up to be a fair, kind, and open minded woman.
Brunning999
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10:52am Wed 2 Nov 11
However everyone has a choice thank goodness and the sensible choice if you want to avoid bullets is do not walk about with a target on your back.
hayburner
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10:55am Wed 2 Nov 11
Brunning999
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10:59am Wed 2 Nov 11
hayburner wrote:Yes and look what all the lawyers have done to the USA everyone is frightened to say or do anything thro fear of being sued, and that has now reached our country.
Are you people seriously that stupid? That you don't see the problem? I'm moving to Southend from the US and this scares and shocks me. My eight year old daughter had better not be bullied because of ignorant attitudes like this.
Over here if a teacher made that comment they would be GONE.
As someone who grew up the source of jokes and bullying because I was "too quiet", and "a geek", I can tell you that it doesn't take having your head flushed down the toilet to make a person feel scared to go to school.
The parents of the kids doing the bullying are the ones who need to take responsibility for their kids' actions. They are the ones raising jerks. Teach your children to respect one another regardless of differences. I do this every day with my daughter and I hope she grows up to be a fair, kind, and open minded woman.
A good example of that in the USA is Robertsons jam a white doll on the label is no problem but a black doll caused a revolution.
My advice to you is join the Labour Party they stand for every lost cause thinkable.
kay1991
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11:04am Wed 2 Nov 11
hayburner
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11:15am Wed 2 Nov 11
hayburner
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11:16am Wed 2 Nov 11
ccd
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11:27am Wed 2 Nov 11
jolllyboy
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11:38am Wed 2 Nov 11
As for bullying, I expect some of teachers didnt say that just said dont be such a wimp. Teachers have enough teacher training days off so there is no excuse for them to not have proper training on bullying and realise that to some children a small thing is bullying whereas to others they can shake it off.
With the rate of illiteracy in our schools what do teachers do on their teacher training.
Also i find it quite shocking that some schools give homework at such a young age on the basis that they spend more time at home than at school. yes parents should be helping their children but not instead of teachers. Parents have little time of an evening to do everything as it is before a child's bedtime. Some schools spoil all holidays for the children with ridiculously long projects. no wonder some parents take their children away in term time.
jolllyboy
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11:39am Wed 2 Nov 11
As for bullying, I expect some of teachers didnt say that just said dont be such a wimp. Teachers have enough teacher training days off so there is no excuse for them to not have proper training on bullying and realise that to some children a small thing is bullying whereas to others they can shake it off.
With the rate of illiteracy in our schools what do teachers do on their teacher training.
Also i find it quite shocking that some schools give homework at such a young age on the basis that they spend more time at home than at school. yes parents should be helping their children but not instead of teachers. Parents have little time of an evening to do everything as it is before a child's bedtime. Some schools spoil all holidays for the children with ridiculously long projects. no wonder some parents take their children away in term time.
EthanEdwards
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11:43am Wed 2 Nov 11
hayburner wrote:Your right it would be super if children were nice to each other. Unfortunately they just are not. Frequently they are cruel evil malevolent little monsters and then thay have bad days. Most are probably even worse. I suggest you read William Golding's Lord of the Flies and reflect that those little 'darlings' would be quite tame by todays standards.
Brunning all that needs to be done is the school needs an anti-bullying policy that can be followed. I have no idea what you are talking about when you say people in the US are afraid to say things because they are afraid of being sued. It's not an issue if your school has a no tolerance policy on this. Students guilty of bullying are spoken to and then suspended if it continues. We need to teach our children to be NICE. This is all I am saying.
It's an evil dark horrid world full of evil dark horrid children.
As for the teachers... It's good advice but couched in very un PC terms. I agree bullying is just awful but it happens. Probably better to equip a youngster with enough self confidence to just ignore it.
I know one bloke who has been a victim of bullying all his life and now has mental problems as a result. It ruined his life then and at 25 is still doing so. Let's hope a strong zero tolerance programme is set up but reality is the evil ones will always find a way round that to make someones life a misery. Thanks Facebook Twitter Bebo etc because thats another way for the evil ones to flourish!
TheFunkyPresident
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11:48am Wed 2 Nov 11
If a child is naturally effeminate then telling them to stop being effeminate is ludicrous. It could also do untold psychological damage, telling them that it's their own fault they're being bullied when all they're doing is being themselves.
Quite clearly, it is the bullies who are at fault and it is the bullies who should be made to change their behaviour. What kind of idiot looks at a situation in which a child is being bullied, and tells the child it's their own fault instead of just punishing the bullies?
You wouldn't tell a black child who was being being racially bullied to 'stop acting so black'. Sexuality is no more a choice than skin colour. It's sad that in this supposedly enlightened age, so many still seemingly can't get their heads around that.
I have lived in Basildon since I was two years old. I'm now 23. As a teenager, I was bullied at school for being gay - and I didn't 'act gay'. I'm not the slightest bit effeminate. It simply got out at school that I was gay.
So what would these teachers have said to me? Would they have actually dealth with my bullies because I didn't 'act gay' and therefore wasn't bringing it on myself, but when dealing with a similar situation involving a camp boy, tell him it was his own fault and to stop 'acting gay'?
My bullying was intense. I was regularly pelted with stones as I walked home from school. I was spat on. My house was constantly egged. On one occasion I was egged *in school*.
Someone put a picture of someone in a wheelchair through my front door. Another time they somehow got into my back garden and left a threatening note on my back doorstep. One night, walking home from a friend's house, I was beaten up by a gang of boys, shouting homophobic insults as they attacked me, and ended up in hospital.
If I'd gone to a teacher and they'd told me it was my own fault for letting people find out I was gay, I don't think I'd ever have got over that.
R85
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11:49am Wed 2 Nov 11
R85
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11:54am Wed 2 Nov 11
R85
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11:54am Wed 2 Nov 11
ex-pat USA
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1:07pm Wed 2 Nov 11
R85 wrote:@R85. I am a brit living in the USA, don't knock the UK, unless you have lived here you wouldn't know about the down side of everyday living, it's not so the 'land of the free' as you think. I have had conversations with people here who would love to move to the UK especially for retirement, it's much easier there than here, seniors aren't looked after here as well as they are there to start with, I could write a list of the things I prefer there than here. Sorry USA, I like it here but there are a lot of things that need improvement. As far as bullying goes, there are kids commiting suicide because they don't get help, it's sad.
Hayburner you must have hit your head and lost all sanity if you want to move to the UK. OMG America is the country of desire for so many Brits (including myself) I just cannot fathom any sane person moving from the US to the UK. I have always wondered why an American would move here? I could write a library on the things I prefer in the US!
Blind Haze
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1:10pm Wed 2 Nov 11
They're right, there should be no gay stuff going on at school.
Unless it's a boarding school, of course.
Brunning999
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2:34pm Wed 2 Nov 11
hayburner wrote:If you are coming here please be warned a 'No tolerance' policy of any form of any description is a non starter we tolerate everything and anything here that is why we allow travellers to break the law for 10 years, anarchist to sit outside St Pauls, Tree huggers to camp on sacred burial sites for years,convicted foreign immigrants to remain in the country forever, murderers to be released after 5 years, burglars to be released on bail to offend time and time again, where do I stop, and one thing is for certain you do ot have a clue how hard it would be to introduce a zero tolerance policy WE AIN'T GOT THE BOTTLE AFTER 13 YEARS OF NEW LABOUR.
Brunning all that needs to be done is the school needs an anti-bullying policy that can be followed. I have no idea what you are talking about when you say people in the US are afraid to say things because they are afraid of being sued. It's not an issue if your school has a no tolerance policy on this. Students guilty of bullying are spoken to and then suspended if it continues. We need to teach our children to be NICE. This is all I am saying.
So perhaps the advice is good keep a low profile do not look or act gay which I agree is not correct but until it is okay that is good advice, the alternative is look gay get injured then go to the Police, court etc and see the thugs walk away from our pathetic courts laughing.
R85
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3:32pm Wed 2 Nov 11
ex-pat USA wrote:I understand what I understand what your saying and I do know about many of the negative issues concerning the USA. I’ve got family that live there and in Canada and have been over there many times. I’ve also read some books about immigrating and stayed with an American family for a month when I was younger. All in all it does seem that the USA has a lot more to offer and is a much nicer place to live…..so long as your prepared to work hard for it, have less holidays, more hours etc. You mostly seem to need a hard work ethic. I also know that there are 50 million people without health insurance! If you do work hard and have the right attitude, I cant see why it wouldn’t work though!
R85 wrote: Hayburner you must have hit your head and lost all sanity if you want to move to the UK. OMG America is the country of desire for so many Brits (including myself) I just cannot fathom any sane person moving from the US to the UK. I have always wondered why an American would move here? I could write a library on the things I prefer in the US!@R85. I am a brit living in the USA, don't knock the UK, unless you have lived here you wouldn't know about the down side of everyday living, it's not so the 'land of the free' as you think. I have had conversations with people here who would love to move to the UK especially for retirement, it's much easier there than here, seniors aren't looked after here as well as they are there to start with, I could write a list of the things I prefer there than here. Sorry USA, I like it here but there are a lot of things that need improvement. As far as bullying goes, there are kids commiting suicide because they don't get help, it's sad.
Also the benefit system of Britain is the reason there are so many council-estate layabouts who are happy living off their dole money! A lot of people wouldn’t have the opportunity of sponging off of the government if they lived in the US.
Over all I’m confident in saying and believing that the USA is a much, much better place to live. After all, why did you move there?
your saying
R85
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4:22pm Wed 2 Nov 11
thiswayup
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4:24pm Wed 2 Nov 11
geezer, innit
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4:50pm Wed 2 Nov 11
Alice in Her Own Land :P
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4:56pm Wed 2 Nov 11
Every year bullying is highlighted on the tv and in the media, but is never adequately tackled.
My daughter was never bullied, neither was she a bully and I am incredibly grateful for that. I dread to think what the family of a bullied child goes through. They always say that school-days are to be looked back on as the best days of your life, but sadly for many children they aren't.
hayburner
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6:25pm Wed 2 Nov 11
Steve H
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6:56pm Wed 2 Nov 11
Steve H
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6:57pm Wed 2 Nov 11
LoopyLou88
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7:22pm Wed 2 Nov 11
Teachers and school governors need to take a stand and stop acting as though it is the victims fault. Bullying is wrong, No one should ever be bullied, and these sort of comments just does not help. Sack those disrespectful homophobic teachers and do it now!
Schools should be a place where students should be safe and feel safe and if students are being bullied the schools should do everything and anything they can to stop the bullying from happening. Bullies should be punished and victims of bullying given the right and correct support and responses they deserve.
Sack those disrespectful teachers. In my opinion these teachers are just as bad as the bullies!
nowisthetime
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9:26pm Wed 2 Nov 11
Democrat
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7:51am Thu 3 Nov 11
hayburner wrote:Fear not Hayburner - this report is arrant nonsense.
Are you people seriously that stupid? That you don't see the problem? I'm moving to Southend from the US and this scares and shocks me. My eight year old daughter had better not be bullied because of ignorant attitudes like this.
Over here if a teacher made that comment they would be GONE.
As someone who grew up the source of jokes and bullying because I was "too quiet", and "a geek", I can tell you that it doesn't take having your head flushed down the toilet to make a person feel scared to go to school.
The parents of the kids doing the bullying are the ones who need to take responsibility for their kids' actions. They are the ones raising jerks. Teach your children to respect one another regardless of differences. I do this every day with my daughter and I hope she grows up to be a fair, kind, and open minded woman.
Of course in a student body of over 1500 there will always be 5 or 6 bullies but they are dealt with firmly and decisively. Peer-mentoring by the trained students themselves ensures that incidents are brought to the attention of staff, and staff constantly keep an eye out for the 'quiet' student. If the incident described had really happened, then a staff member would have reported it instantly.
Your daughter will enjoy her British education, and if my visits to a number of US schools is anything to go on, she will be valued more, safer, and have a broader education.
Democrat
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7:51am Thu 3 Nov 11
Of course in a student body of over 1500 there will always be 5 or 6 bullies but they are dealt with firmly and decisively. Peer-mentoring by the trained students themselves ensures that incidents are brought to the attention of staff, and staff constantly keep an eye out for the 'quiet' student. If the incident described had really happened, then a staff member would have reported it instantly.
Your daughter will enjoy her British education, and if my visits to a number of US schools is anything to go on, she will be valued more, safer, and have a broader education.
Dr A Grass
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9:41am Thu 3 Nov 11
usaessextransplant
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9:59am Thu 3 Nov 11
So far, after nearly a year, we have had really nothing but positive experiences, including at our our son's school. Unlike the Bay Area, we're the only gay family with kids (as far as we know!) in our community. We're very active in our child's school, parents groups, etc and I think being seen as so involved sets the tone for the school at least. And when questions have arisen such as family tree, in which we include our sons' birthfamily, the school proactively asked for our input.
Our son is very confident, out-going and one of the most popular students in his class. Right now, I cannot imagine him being bullied, and hope that he never is. But even if he is not, as parents, we need to teach him to speak up if he ever sees another child being bullied or mistreated. We all have a responsibility to instill values in our children that EVERY person is a miracle of God's grace in their own right and deserves to be treated with kindness and respect.
Of course, as in the States, I am sure the situation will vary greatly from school to school or even from teacher to teacher in different classes. But what I find reassuring here is that, in general, there is less tolerance of the outdated "boys will be boys" mentality, and at least on paper, there are really strict policies of addressing issues of bullying, racism, homophobia, and it just means parents need to take an active role in holding schools and teachers accountable in enforcing what amounts to treating one another with common decency.
And @SteveH...wow. I don't even know where to begin with your comment. It's just sad that you seem proud of your ability to move through the world without offending others with your identity as a gay man. My husband and I don't make it a practice to snog in public either, but nor do we pretend we're good mates out for the day with a couple of kids. As gay adults who are in a position to be ourselves, we have a moral duty to live openly to show young LGBT kids that they are not alone and that they can have a happy future, even if life may be rough for them now.
OneManOneVoice
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1:54pm Thu 3 Nov 11
Either way its a non story
Leigh Norris
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6:23pm Thu 3 Nov 11
OneManOneVoice wrote:... don't be so gay!
Gay is in happy or the hijacked version of the word ?
Either way its a non story
Sign of the times
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7:57pm Thu 3 Nov 11
I often wonder if all those hormones that are in the water nowadays, (recycled water) has anything to do with it, creating the changes that seem to be occurring in nature.
Only an observation, not a criticism.
When I was at junior school I recall a boy who thought it was fun to take swipes at me. It hurt and it made me look foolish.
I took this for around 2 years but I realised that the only way it would get dealt with was by me doing something.
Then one day as he was punching my arm whilst we were standing in a group, I lashed out with a punch, straight at his face, aiming for his nose.
I thought this has got to make its mark because I knew he would hit me back, which he duly did, a lot harder because I had made him look a fool.
But he never hit me again.
I'm talking 50 yrs ago. In those days you got on with what life dealt you.
Unlike today, where constant snivelling of 'he's being horrible to me' and children who are incapable, yes incapable of thinking of how they can sort out their own problems.
The playground is a leveller. It is where everyone finds their position so to speak.
Or as one Swedish author wrote 'we learned how to darn our own socks.' Today our culture is throw away because things don't matter anymore.
Sign of the times
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7:57pm Thu 3 Nov 11
I often wonder if all those hormones that are in the water nowadays, (recycled water) has anything to do with it, creating the changes that seem to be occurring in nature.
Only an observation, not a criticism.
When I was at junior school I recall a boy who thought it was fun to take swipes at me. It hurt and it made me look foolish.
I took this for around 2 years but I realised that the only way it would get dealt with was by me doing something.
Then one day as he was punching my arm whilst we were standing in a group, I lashed out with a punch, straight at his face, aiming for his nose.
I thought this has got to make its mark because I knew he would hit me back, which he duly did, a lot harder because I had made him look a fool.
But he never hit me again.
I'm talking 50 yrs ago. In those days you got on with what life dealt you.
Unlike today, where constant snivelling of 'he's being horrible to me' and children who are incapable, yes incapable of thinking of how they can sort out their own problems.
The playground is a leveller. It is where everyone finds their position so to speak.
Or as one Swedish author wrote 'we learned how to darn our own socks.' Today our culture is throw away because things don't matter anymore.
smiffy22
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11:18pm Thu 3 Nov 11
Until we crack down hard on adult scum and segregate them from the civilised, we will sadly be blessed with their children scum, and so the cycle will continue.
APR
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11:26pm Thu 3 Nov 11
"......The playground is a leveller. It is where everyone finds their position so to speak...."
So true. School is where you first realize the meaning of the phrase "pecking order".
I don't know if things have changed ?, but when I was at the Rayleigh Secondary School (many years ago, when Sweyne was a Grammar School), most of the teachers had their favourite pupils, and the ones they openly disliked. There were the usual school bullies, the swots. The head boy who everyone sucked up to when he was picking his football team in PE lessons. I doubt much has changed over the years ?
OneManOneVoice
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8:29am Fri 4 Nov 11
Leigh Norris wrote:Again - do you mean David Walliams style or happy ?
OneManOneVoice wrote: Gay is in happy or the hijacked version of the word ? Either way its a non story... don't be so gay!
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This news story is just as pointless as if I turned round to someone and said "man up" - does that mean they are not acting in a manner which befits a man and therefore indicating they are a homosexual becuase they are not acting in a manner which I define to be a man?
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Seriously....
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Silly news story. I am sure millions of people have encountered a situation such as a train being delayed or something not working or in any given situation and said "that's bent" "that's so gay" - its not meant as detrimental, its because if someone was to suggest something as "queer" it should mean the dictionary term, but in todays culture they would be accused of homophobia !!! (even though the term homophobia is daft as it indicate a fear of gay people as in arachnaphobia is a fear of spiders...but anyway)
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Would the teacher be in trouble if he asked a gay student to stop being so manly ?
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Just to confirm, before the hordes of unwashed demand I be burnt at the stake or forced to listen to Right Said Fred - I am not (and i repeat) not homophobic in any way - i just believe that inverse discrimination is just as damaging as positive discrimination.
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Perhaps all minorities and majorities should group together to oppose the PC brigade ? Or would be classified as antibullshitaphobics and thus positively discriminating againts them?
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World has gone mad
RobertFS
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5:01pm Fri 4 Nov 11
This is probably because I was schooled from the mid 40's onwards. Yes, there was a bit of bullying but minimal. I got stick and so did others but that's life. Grow up.
Mind you we didn't have ingorant parents coming up to the school to complain about their poor little boys getting the slipper. My father endorsed any discipline that was meeted out to me (and rightly too). Addititionally we had no evidence of homosexual activities by any of the staff or pupils. It may have been undercover but I suppose if you want to flaunt it you must expect to get the response.
I think we spend too much time being politically correct instead of getting on with what ever life offers you.
jlcraig
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11:14pm Fri 4 Nov 11
missroyalterrace
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8:22am Sat 5 Nov 11
OH MY GOD.
and to be sheep who said its better to remain faceless in a crowd - what terribly interesting lives you must lead.
gay kids act straight! ginger kids dye your hair! kids with glasses, get contacts! tall kids, chop your legs off! short kids...get some heels! kids with braces, have your teeth taken out and wear fake! kids with acne, wear masks! dear god, are we trying to create some freaky society of namesless faceless drones?
uerghrgr. this article and some of the comments come from sheer ignorance and homophobia and lack of understanding.
'anyone know why gay men speak like that?' Dont know, anyone know why some people are thick??
paulatepc
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5:00pm Sat 5 Nov 11
APR
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5:00pm Sat 5 Nov 11
helloo
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5:13pm Sat 5 Nov 11
paulatepc
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5:28pm Sat 5 Nov 11
ethel the frog
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11:16am Sun 6 Nov 11
ccd
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12:37pm Sun 6 Nov 11
Of course, the Bible must be right and science, genetics and sociology wrong. Clearly the scriptures, most of which were stolen from earlier religions and written to try and account for the unknown that early man saw all around him, must be the last word in human sexuality.
pussycats
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12:49pm Sun 6 Nov 11
pussycats
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12:51pm Sun 6 Nov 11
Metta
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5:09pm Mon 7 Nov 11
1) This is an Echo report (do you believe everything you read in the papers?)
2) This is a story about specific teachers in a specific school - that doesn't mean it is representative of the views of other teachers, other schools, governors or hard working pastoral and welfare staff that work tirelessly to tackle bullying
I am saddened by the lack of compassion in kids and the relentless persecution that goes on in our schools, through modern communications technologies and on social networking sites.
When a school takes a zero-tolerance policy it doesn't mean bullying no longer happens; it means that the school staff will not simply tolerate and allow it to happen. However, if you look at the relative powers of students, parents and teachers nowadays you might begin to understand why even the best efforts of schools to socialize the kids are often fruitless.
Perhaps, in spite of our efforts at promoting tolerance and equality, we are still stuck in a 'Darwinian' social order where you have to fight to survive.
So much for civilisation.
As Ghandi remarked when asked a question about Western civilisation, "I think it would be a very good idea!"
Just stand by the school gates and observe some of the parents' behaviour and you might get an insight into the source of the kids aggression and general belligerence
zaedlo
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9:06am Sun 13 Nov 11
APR wrote:The problem APR is that kids are bullied, have been since schooling began and we have no clue on stopping it, why not target the bully instead of the victim ? We have cameras everywhere, I'm sure they could be used to catch these mini gangsters, find them and deal with it. Dare I say, bring back discipline.
Dr A Grass wrote:It does to me too.
"TEACHERS allegedly told bullied children to act “less gay” if they want to end their torment." Seems a pretty fair comment to me!
I just don't see the problem.
zaedlo
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9:21am Sun 13 Nov 11
joeski97 says...
8:38am Wed 2 Nov 11