More homes must be built in borough, Basildon Council told

BASILDON  Council has to radically increase the number of new homes built in the area over the next 20 years.

Council bosses had set a target of just 6,500 homes, with no green belt being released for development, but they have now admitted this was unrealistic, and the figure will have to go up.

Council leader Tony Ball said it was not yet possible to say what the new target would be, but in the spring two other options of 10,100 or 21,600 were revealed.

Both involved large areas of green belt being developed.

Mr Ball said: “The amount of homes will have to increase, but I can’t yet go into numbers because this is still being determined.”

However, he maintained 21,600 was simply not deliverable.

Large sites for potential housing development identified under the two higher options included: l 127 acres at Little Chalvedon Hall, Bowers Gifford, where Nottinghamshire County Council wants to build 1,300 homes l 68 acres at Outwood Common Road, Billericay , suitable for 650 homes.

l 291 acres east of Pound Lane, Bowers Gifford, enough for up to 2,275 homes l 71 acres at Great Crowbridge Farm, Billericay, enough for 650 houses l There were also details of a major expansion of the Wick estate at Wickford into the Fairmead plotlands area Mr Ball said a consultation over the plans had shown residents supported new homes being built on land between existing properties in the borough’s plotlands areas. Known as infill development, this could help increase numbers.

Residents and businesses were consulted over a development blueprint for the area in February, but only about 300 people responded.

The council’s preferred option was drastically short of Government targets of more than 21,000 being built, but the council hoped if it got the support of residents it could convince White- hall 6,500 was enough.

Mr Ball said: “Following the consultation there will be some changes to the options and these will be reported back to the cabinet in September.”

Basildon Lib Dem leader Geoff Williams said: “They will have to look at green belt now, and that means Bowers Gifford, because they won’t go into Billericay. We believe they should be looking at undeveloped sites like Gardiners Lane first.”

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3:13pm Sun 22 Jul 12

E-Types. says...

"Council leader Tony Ball said it was not yet possible to say what the new target would be, but in the spring two other options of 10,100 or 21,600 were revealed."


I wonder when he came to this conclusion, in the last 9 months? Or was he aware greenbelt would have to be built on when he led the charge against Dale Farm. It might seem to others that DF was to be the land for some of these houses but it seems Mr Ball forgot there was toxic waste dumped on this ground by the council which would have to be moved before it was built on. A licence to move this contaminated soil would be needed which in being granted would be admittance by the council this was indeed a illegal dump for council asbestos.."oh what a tangled web we weave'
"Council leader Tony Ball said it was not yet possible to say what the new target would be, but in the spring two other options of 10,100 or 21,600 were revealed." I wonder when he came to this conclusion, in the last 9 months? Or was he aware greenbelt would have to be built on when he led the charge against Dale Farm. It might seem to others that DF was to be the land for some of these houses but it seems Mr Ball forgot there was toxic waste dumped on this ground by the council which would have to be moved before it was built on. A licence to move this contaminated soil would be needed which in being granted would be admittance by the council this was indeed a illegal dump for council asbestos.."oh what a tangled web we weave' E-Types.

3:59pm Sun 22 Jul 12

SpiffSpaff84 says...

Get out while you still can
Get out while you still can SpiffSpaff84

4:05pm Sun 22 Jul 12

jolllyboy says...

Why not concrete the whole lot while they are at it. Then everyone will move away and leave it all to the councillors.

Why have the echo made the writing pale grey - useless to read.
Why not concrete the whole lot while they are at it. Then everyone will move away and leave it all to the councillors. Why have the echo made the writing pale grey - useless to read. jolllyboy

8:35pm Sun 22 Jul 12

A Dermot says...

If you want to find out what bits of green belt wil be developed find out if the owner is pals with any Tories.
If you want to find out what bits of green belt wil be developed find out if the owner is pals with any Tories. A Dermot

9:03pm Sun 22 Jul 12

gumbley says...

They do seem to be making a pigs ear of this. First they missed the boat in getting their proposed Local plan in before the deadline. Then they had to go down the LDF route. Their preferred option was No 1 which envisaged upwards of 6,500 homes which didn't even meet the housing need. Included in their plans were releasing land at Fords Dunton for development as well as doing a volte face in regard of Dry Street. Having turned down the application to build at the Fords Dunton site, one wondrs where all of the additional houses are going to be built. Whatever happens the Tories will no doubt do their upmost to protect Green Belt in their areas i.e. Billericay. What will this mean for people living in Basildon and Wickford?
They do seem to be making a pigs ear of this. First they missed the boat in getting their proposed Local plan in before the deadline. Then they had to go down the LDF route. Their preferred option was No 1 which envisaged upwards of 6,500 homes which didn't even meet the housing need. Included in their plans were releasing land at Fords Dunton for development as well as doing a volte face in regard of Dry Street. Having turned down the application to build at the Fords Dunton site, one wondrs where all of the additional houses are going to be built. Whatever happens the Tories will no doubt do their upmost to protect Green Belt in their areas i.e. Billericay. What will this mean for people living in Basildon and Wickford? gumbley

12:03am Mon 23 Jul 12

Dan_ says...

Funny how Nottinghamshire cc selected some land to buy, which if I remember rightly Basildon cc was opposed to developing - a u turn later and nottinghamshire cc's decision is starting not to look so bad a? Sorry but blatantly not a coincidence! I'm not anti development in principal, but I am anti the local council not being straight with us? Everyone involved here knew and knows what is going to happen, you think Nottinghamshire cc spent millions of pension fund budget buying a corner or Basildon Greenbelt hundreds of miles from their own jurisdiction on a whim? Not a chance! That's the bit that really stinks, they knew how this was going to pan out. Having spent time looking at the detail of the timeline of Courtauld road, this development will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, next week, next year. But it will! Nottinghamshire cc know it, Basildon council know it, and are just beginning to sow the seed of admittance. I do feel sorry for people in bowers giff, it is someone's choice to live somewhere semi-rural and pay the money for that life. I can totally understand being irate when suddenly someone else underhandedly decides to bring a town to your door. Especially when you look at the quality of many contemporary housing developments, (s h one tea). We all need somewhere to live but the way people are going about house building nowadays is just dispicable.
Funny how Nottinghamshire cc selected some land to buy, which if I remember rightly Basildon cc was opposed to developing - a u turn later and nottinghamshire cc's decision is starting not to look so bad a? Sorry but blatantly not a coincidence! I'm not anti development in principal, but I am anti the local council not being straight with us? Everyone involved here knew and knows what is going to happen, you think Nottinghamshire cc spent millions of pension fund budget buying a corner or Basildon Greenbelt hundreds of miles from their own jurisdiction on a whim? Not a chance! That's the bit that really stinks, they knew how this was going to pan out. Having spent time looking at the detail of the timeline of Courtauld road, this development will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, next week, next year. But it will! Nottinghamshire cc know it, Basildon council know it, and are just beginning to sow the seed of admittance. I do feel sorry for people in bowers giff, it is someone's choice to live somewhere semi-rural and pay the money for that life. I can totally understand being irate when suddenly someone else underhandedly decides to bring a town to your door. Especially when you look at the quality of many contemporary housing developments, (s h one tea). We all need somewhere to live but the way people are going about house building nowadays is just dispicable. Dan_

1:20am Mon 23 Jul 12

Nebs says...

Why do they HAVE to build any new houses. Plenty of land elsewhere in the country aside from the already overpopulated South East.
Why do they HAVE to build any new houses. Plenty of land elsewhere in the country aside from the already overpopulated South East. Nebs

7:06am Mon 23 Jul 12

shallotman says...

The way immigrants are pouring into the Country, there will never be enough houses.
The way immigrants are pouring into the Country, there will never be enough houses. shallotman

10:24am Mon 23 Jul 12

The Cater Wood Creeper says...

nice big green space in Billericay rioe for development. It's called Lake Meadows. Should be able to sell that land off to developers at a nice price considering the price of oues in that area....


How many of these thousands extra houses will be controlled by the Council for renting out to people who can't afford to get on the property ladder yet? We've been told here recently by Phil Turner that there's a great big housing waiting list so lets make sure that gets addressed at the same time eh?
nice big green space in Billericay rioe for development. It's called Lake Meadows. Should be able to sell that land off to developers at a nice price considering the price of oues in that area.... How many of these thousands extra houses will be controlled by the Council for renting out to people who can't afford to get on the property ladder yet? We've been told here recently by Phil Turner that there's a great big housing waiting list so lets make sure that gets addressed at the same time eh? The Cater Wood Creeper

12:42pm Mon 23 Jul 12

mikepaterson says...

gumbley wrote:
They do seem to be making a pigs ear of this. First they missed the boat in getting their proposed Local plan in before the deadline. Then they had to go down the LDF route. Their preferred option was No 1 which envisaged upwards of 6,500 homes which didn't even meet the housing need. Included in their plans were releasing land at Fords Dunton for development as well as doing a volte face in regard of Dry Street. Having turned down the application to build at the Fords Dunton site, one wondrs where all of the additional houses are going to be built. Whatever happens the Tories will no doubt do their upmost to protect Green Belt in their areas i.e. Billericay. What will this mean for people living in Basildon and Wickford?
I believe that the fault for the Local Plan not being passed was down to the (Labour) Central Government not allocatiing anybody to do so.
[quote][p][bold]gumbley[/bold] wrote: They do seem to be making a pigs ear of this. First they missed the boat in getting their proposed Local plan in before the deadline. Then they had to go down the LDF route. Their preferred option was No 1 which envisaged upwards of 6,500 homes which didn't even meet the housing need. Included in their plans were releasing land at Fords Dunton for development as well as doing a volte face in regard of Dry Street. Having turned down the application to build at the Fords Dunton site, one wondrs where all of the additional houses are going to be built. Whatever happens the Tories will no doubt do their upmost to protect Green Belt in their areas i.e. Billericay. What will this mean for people living in Basildon and Wickford?[/p][/quote]I believe that the fault for the Local Plan not being passed was down to the (Labour) Central Government not allocatiing anybody to do so. mikepaterson

12:45pm Mon 23 Jul 12

EthanEdwards says...

shallotman wrote:
The way immigrants are pouring into the Country, there will never be enough houses.
100% Right fix the underlying problem not tinker with the symptoms.
[quote][p][bold]shallotman[/bold] wrote: The way immigrants are pouring into the Country, there will never be enough houses.[/p][/quote]100% Right fix the underlying problem not tinker with the symptoms. EthanEdwards

12:47pm Mon 23 Jul 12

mikepaterson says...

gumbley wrote:
They do seem to be making a pigs ear of this. First they missed the boat in getting their proposed Local plan in before the deadline. Then they had to go down the LDF route. Their preferred option was No 1 which envisaged upwards of 6,500 homes which didn't even meet the housing need. Included in their plans were releasing land at Fords Dunton for development as well as doing a volte face in regard of Dry Street. Having turned down the application to build at the Fords Dunton site, one wondrs where all of the additional houses are going to be built. Whatever happens the Tories will no doubt do their upmost to protect Green Belt in their areas i.e. Billericay. What will this mean for people living in Basildon and Wickford?
They seem to be doing their utmost to protect all Greenbelt in the District including that in Bowers Gifford. Option A was recommended by them and is for No development at all in Green Belt. I feel this is wrong as there are some areas of greenbelt that would be improved by limited (infill) development, and hopefully there will be some happy medium where our rural Greenbelt (such as the part that Nottingham CC are trying to develop in Bowers Gifford) is protected, but that some limited developments are allowed where in fitting with or an improvement to the surroundings.
[quote][p][bold]gumbley[/bold] wrote: They do seem to be making a pigs ear of this. First they missed the boat in getting their proposed Local plan in before the deadline. Then they had to go down the LDF route. Their preferred option was No 1 which envisaged upwards of 6,500 homes which didn't even meet the housing need. Included in their plans were releasing land at Fords Dunton for development as well as doing a volte face in regard of Dry Street. Having turned down the application to build at the Fords Dunton site, one wondrs where all of the additional houses are going to be built. Whatever happens the Tories will no doubt do their upmost to protect Green Belt in their areas i.e. Billericay. What will this mean for people living in Basildon and Wickford?[/p][/quote]They seem to be doing their utmost to protect all Greenbelt in the District including that in Bowers Gifford. Option A was recommended by them and is for No development at all in Green Belt. I feel this is wrong as there are some areas of greenbelt that would be improved by limited (infill) development, and hopefully there will be some happy medium where our rural Greenbelt (such as the part that Nottingham CC are trying to develop in Bowers Gifford) is protected, but that some limited developments are allowed where in fitting with or an improvement to the surroundings. mikepaterson

12:56pm Mon 23 Jul 12

mikepaterson says...

Dan_ wrote:
Funny how Nottinghamshire cc selected some land to buy, which if I remember rightly Basildon cc was opposed to developing - a u turn later and nottinghamshire cc's decision is starting not to look so bad a? Sorry but blatantly not a coincidence! I'm not anti development in principal, but I am anti the local council not being straight with us? Everyone involved here knew and knows what is going to happen, you think Nottinghamshire cc spent millions of pension fund budget buying a corner or Basildon Greenbelt hundreds of miles from their own jurisdiction on a whim? Not a chance! That's the bit that really stinks, they knew how this was going to pan out. Having spent time looking at the detail of the timeline of Courtauld road, this development will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, next week, next year. But it will! Nottinghamshire cc know it, Basildon council know it, and are just beginning to sow the seed of admittance. I do feel sorry for people in bowers giff, it is someone's choice to live somewhere semi-rural and pay the money for that life. I can totally understand being irate when suddenly someone else underhandedly decides to bring a town to your door. Especially when you look at the quality of many contemporary housing developments, (s h one tea). We all need somewhere to live but the way people are going about house building nowadays is just dispicable.
It is quite common for investment companies to buy arable land specutively.

This is what has happened here.

I do not think that you will see a U turn from Basidlon Council as they have been so open in their challenge to this. It would be political suicide for them to support it, especially when they spent so much money and effort protecting the greenbelt at Dale Farm.

Of course future councils could decide otherwise, and it is not beyond belief that a Labour led Basildon Council might approve of a huge injection of cash to pay for whatever socialist agenda they have by selling out and permitting such a development.
[quote][p][bold]Dan_[/bold] wrote: Funny how Nottinghamshire cc selected some land to buy, which if I remember rightly Basildon cc was opposed to developing - a u turn later and nottinghamshire cc's decision is starting not to look so bad a? Sorry but blatantly not a coincidence! I'm not anti development in principal, but I am anti the local council not being straight with us? Everyone involved here knew and knows what is going to happen, you think Nottinghamshire cc spent millions of pension fund budget buying a corner or Basildon Greenbelt hundreds of miles from their own jurisdiction on a whim? Not a chance! That's the bit that really stinks, they knew how this was going to pan out. Having spent time looking at the detail of the timeline of Courtauld road, this development will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, next week, next year. But it will! Nottinghamshire cc know it, Basildon council know it, and are just beginning to sow the seed of admittance. I do feel sorry for people in bowers giff, it is someone's choice to live somewhere semi-rural and pay the money for that life. I can totally understand being irate when suddenly someone else underhandedly decides to bring a town to your door. Especially when you look at the quality of many contemporary housing developments, (s h one tea). We all need somewhere to live but the way people are going about house building nowadays is just dispicable.[/p][/quote]It is quite common for investment companies to buy arable land specutively. This is what has happened here. I do not think that you will see a U turn from Basidlon Council as they have been so open in their challenge to this. It would be political suicide for them to support it, especially when they spent so much money and effort protecting the greenbelt at Dale Farm. Of course future councils could decide otherwise, and it is not beyond belief that a Labour led Basildon Council might approve of a huge injection of cash to pay for whatever socialist agenda they have by selling out and permitting such a development. mikepaterson

1:07pm Mon 23 Jul 12

SpiffSpaff84 says...

thousands of new homes, ambulances have been cut and so have the police, 1 hospital that is packed as it is, life in basildon is going to start taking a major dive
thousands of new homes, ambulances have been cut and so have the police, 1 hospital that is packed as it is, life in basildon is going to start taking a major dive SpiffSpaff84

5:00pm Mon 23 Jul 12

gumbley says...

mikepaterson wrote:
Dan_ wrote: Funny how Nottinghamshire cc selected some land to buy, which if I remember rightly Basildon cc was opposed to developing - a u turn later and nottinghamshire cc's decision is starting not to look so bad a? Sorry but blatantly not a coincidence! I'm not anti development in principal, but I am anti the local council not being straight with us? Everyone involved here knew and knows what is going to happen, you think Nottinghamshire cc spent millions of pension fund budget buying a corner or Basildon Greenbelt hundreds of miles from their own jurisdiction on a whim? Not a chance! That's the bit that really stinks, they knew how this was going to pan out. Having spent time looking at the detail of the timeline of Courtauld road, this development will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, next week, next year. But it will! Nottinghamshire cc know it, Basildon council know it, and are just beginning to sow the seed of admittance. I do feel sorry for people in bowers giff, it is someone's choice to live somewhere semi-rural and pay the money for that life. I can totally understand being irate when suddenly someone else underhandedly decides to bring a town to your door. Especially when you look at the quality of many contemporary housing developments, (s h one tea). We all need somewhere to live but the way people are going about house building nowadays is just dispicable.
It is quite common for investment companies to buy arable land specutively. This is what has happened here. I do not think that you will see a U turn from Basidlon Council as they have been so open in their challenge to this. It would be political suicide for them to support it, especially when they spent so much money and effort protecting the greenbelt at Dale Farm. Of course future councils could decide otherwise, and it is not beyond belief that a Labour led Basildon Council might approve of a huge injection of cash to pay for whatever socialist agenda they have by selling out and permitting such a development.
I don't know about 'future socialist agendas' but I do know that the conservative council has been hell bent on selling off recreational ground and open spaces for development in order to fund their pet project of the Sporting Village.
[quote][p][bold]mikepaterson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan_[/bold] wrote: Funny how Nottinghamshire cc selected some land to buy, which if I remember rightly Basildon cc was opposed to developing - a u turn later and nottinghamshire cc's decision is starting not to look so bad a? Sorry but blatantly not a coincidence! I'm not anti development in principal, but I am anti the local council not being straight with us? Everyone involved here knew and knows what is going to happen, you think Nottinghamshire cc spent millions of pension fund budget buying a corner or Basildon Greenbelt hundreds of miles from their own jurisdiction on a whim? Not a chance! That's the bit that really stinks, they knew how this was going to pan out. Having spent time looking at the detail of the timeline of Courtauld road, this development will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, next week, next year. But it will! Nottinghamshire cc know it, Basildon council know it, and are just beginning to sow the seed of admittance. I do feel sorry for people in bowers giff, it is someone's choice to live somewhere semi-rural and pay the money for that life. I can totally understand being irate when suddenly someone else underhandedly decides to bring a town to your door. Especially when you look at the quality of many contemporary housing developments, (s h one tea). We all need somewhere to live but the way people are going about house building nowadays is just dispicable.[/p][/quote]It is quite common for investment companies to buy arable land specutively. This is what has happened here. I do not think that you will see a U turn from Basidlon Council as they have been so open in their challenge to this. It would be political suicide for them to support it, especially when they spent so much money and effort protecting the greenbelt at Dale Farm. Of course future councils could decide otherwise, and it is not beyond belief that a Labour led Basildon Council might approve of a huge injection of cash to pay for whatever socialist agenda they have by selling out and permitting such a development.[/p][/quote]I don't know about 'future socialist agendas' but I do know that the conservative council has been hell bent on selling off recreational ground and open spaces for development in order to fund their pet project of the Sporting Village. gumbley

6:32pm Mon 23 Jul 12

TheWizzard says...

Only a fool would believe they will not do a u turn, just look at dry street
Only a fool would believe they will not do a u turn, just look at dry street TheWizzard

7:37pm Mon 23 Jul 12

gumbley says...

TheWizzard wrote:
Only a fool would believe they will not do a u turn, just look at dry street
Dry Street is a classic example of such a volte face! The claim seems to be:
1. The Homes and Community Agency want it developed.
2. For some strange reason the Tories believe that having a new college in the centre of Basildon will boost academic achievement
3. That the Town Centre will thrive on the extra spending by students who incidentally will no longer be receiving their Education Maintenance Allowance!
Oh it was those same Tories who called a special council meeting to express support for putting Dry Street into Green Belt.
Phrases like whelk stall and couldn't run spring to mindu (or much ruder expressions of the same idea)!
[quote][p][bold]TheWizzard[/bold] wrote: Only a fool would believe they will not do a u turn, just look at dry street[/p][/quote]Dry Street is a classic example of such a volte face! The claim seems to be: 1. The Homes and Community Agency want it developed. 2. For some strange reason the Tories believe that having a new college in the centre of Basildon will boost academic achievement 3. That the Town Centre will thrive on the extra spending by students who incidentally will no longer be receiving their Education Maintenance Allowance! Oh it was those same Tories who called a special council meeting to express support for putting Dry Street into Green Belt. Phrases like whelk stall and couldn't run spring to mindu (or much ruder expressions of the same idea)! gumbley

4:16pm Tue 24 Jul 12

hothead says...

gumbley wrote:
mikepaterson wrote:
Dan_ wrote: Funny how Nottinghamshire cc selected some land to buy, which if I remember rightly Basildon cc was opposed to developing - a u turn later and nottinghamshire cc's decision is starting not to look so bad a? Sorry but blatantly not a coincidence! I'm not anti development in principal, but I am anti the local council not being straight with us? Everyone involved here knew and knows what is going to happen, you think Nottinghamshire cc spent millions of pension fund budget buying a corner or Basildon Greenbelt hundreds of miles from their own jurisdiction on a whim? Not a chance! That's the bit that really stinks, they knew how this was going to pan out. Having spent time looking at the detail of the timeline of Courtauld road, this development will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, next week, next year. But it will! Nottinghamshire cc know it, Basildon council know it, and are just beginning to sow the seed of admittance. I do feel sorry for people in bowers giff, it is someone's choice to live somewhere semi-rural and pay the money for that life. I can totally understand being irate when suddenly someone else underhandedly decides to bring a town to your door. Especially when you look at the quality of many contemporary housing developments, (s h one tea). We all need somewhere to live but the way people are going about house building nowadays is just dispicable.
It is quite common for investment companies to buy arable land specutively. This is what has happened here. I do not think that you will see a U turn from Basidlon Council as they have been so open in their challenge to this. It would be political suicide for them to support it, especially when they spent so much money and effort protecting the greenbelt at Dale Farm. Of course future councils could decide otherwise, and it is not beyond belief that a Labour led Basildon Council might approve of a huge injection of cash to pay for whatever socialist agenda they have by selling out and permitting such a development.
I don't know about 'future socialist agendas' but I do know that the conservative council has been hell bent on selling off recreational ground and open spaces for development in order to fund their pet project of the Sporting Village.
But not green belt!
[quote][p][bold]gumbley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikepaterson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan_[/bold] wrote: Funny how Nottinghamshire cc selected some land to buy, which if I remember rightly Basildon cc was opposed to developing - a u turn later and nottinghamshire cc's decision is starting not to look so bad a? Sorry but blatantly not a coincidence! I'm not anti development in principal, but I am anti the local council not being straight with us? Everyone involved here knew and knows what is going to happen, you think Nottinghamshire cc spent millions of pension fund budget buying a corner or Basildon Greenbelt hundreds of miles from their own jurisdiction on a whim? Not a chance! That's the bit that really stinks, they knew how this was going to pan out. Having spent time looking at the detail of the timeline of Courtauld road, this development will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, next week, next year. But it will! Nottinghamshire cc know it, Basildon council know it, and are just beginning to sow the seed of admittance. I do feel sorry for people in bowers giff, it is someone's choice to live somewhere semi-rural and pay the money for that life. I can totally understand being irate when suddenly someone else underhandedly decides to bring a town to your door. Especially when you look at the quality of many contemporary housing developments, (s h one tea). We all need somewhere to live but the way people are going about house building nowadays is just dispicable.[/p][/quote]It is quite common for investment companies to buy arable land specutively. This is what has happened here. I do not think that you will see a U turn from Basidlon Council as they have been so open in their challenge to this. It would be political suicide for them to support it, especially when they spent so much money and effort protecting the greenbelt at Dale Farm. Of course future councils could decide otherwise, and it is not beyond belief that a Labour led Basildon Council might approve of a huge injection of cash to pay for whatever socialist agenda they have by selling out and permitting such a development.[/p][/quote]I don't know about 'future socialist agendas' but I do know that the conservative council has been hell bent on selling off recreational ground and open spaces for development in order to fund their pet project of the Sporting Village.[/p][/quote]But not green belt! hothead

4:18pm Tue 24 Jul 12

hothead says...

TheWizzard wrote:
Only a fool would believe they will not do a u turn, just look at dry street
Not in greenbelt though!
[quote][p][bold]TheWizzard[/bold] wrote: Only a fool would believe they will not do a u turn, just look at dry street[/p][/quote]Not in greenbelt though! hothead

6:07pm Tue 24 Jul 12

RoseGriffin says...

Neither Bowers Gifford Parish Council nor Basildon District Council knew about the purchase of this land for development prior to the sale to Nottingham County Council Pension Fund (NCCPF). In an open letter to NCCPF Tony Ball said that he was surprised at their actions without prior consultation. Michael Cox, Chairman of Nottingham County Council Pension Fund, stated in an article on the www.mynottingham.co.
uk website last year that the green belt land at Bowers Gifford, purchased in January 2011, was a long term investment. He said that the £4.3m paid reflected the price of a working farm. If this was true, why then a year later have elaborate plans already been prepared to build up to 1300 houses on the Little Chalvedon Hall Farm green belt? This all sounds a bit Barclays Bankerish to me! what makes it worse is that they are now talking about a further 2275 houses on an adjoining site.

It is believed that an additional payment will be paid to the seller of Little Chalvedon Hall Farm (who lives in Devon and recently inherited this beautiful piece of farm land) if planning permission is granted. It is also believed that an additional payment will be made to the seller of adjoining land in Bowers Gifford, by Nottingham Council Pension Fund ,if planning permission is granted on that site too. I have written to the pension fund to ask them to confirm or deny that these additional incentive payments have been agreed if planning permission is granted.

A few people, who don’t live in the area, might make a quick profit, if planning permission is granted, on Essex green belt. However it will be a heavy cost not only to the current people who live in this ancient village but also to their children and future generations. This picturesque piece of landscape could never be replaced.

Shame on the people who manage Nottingham County Council Pension Fund!
Neither Bowers Gifford Parish Council nor Basildon District Council knew about the purchase of this land for development prior to the sale to Nottingham County Council Pension Fund (NCCPF). In an open letter to NCCPF Tony Ball said that he was surprised at their actions without prior consultation. Michael Cox, Chairman of Nottingham County Council Pension Fund, stated in an article on the www.mynottingham.co. uk website last year that the green belt land at Bowers Gifford, purchased in January 2011, was a long term investment. He said that the £4.3m paid reflected the price of a working farm. If this was true, why then a year later have elaborate plans already been prepared to build up to 1300 houses on the Little Chalvedon Hall Farm green belt? This all sounds a bit Barclays Bankerish to me! what makes it worse is that they are now talking about a further 2275 houses on an adjoining site. It is believed that an additional payment will be paid to the seller of Little Chalvedon Hall Farm (who lives in Devon and recently inherited this beautiful piece of farm land) if planning permission is granted. It is also believed that an additional payment will be made to the seller of adjoining land in Bowers Gifford, by Nottingham Council Pension Fund ,if planning permission is granted on that site too. I have written to the pension fund to ask them to confirm or deny that these additional incentive payments have been agreed if planning permission is granted. A few people, who don’t live in the area, might make a quick profit, if planning permission is granted, on Essex green belt. However it will be a heavy cost not only to the current people who live in this ancient village but also to their children and future generations. This picturesque piece of landscape could never be replaced. Shame on the people who manage Nottingham County Council Pension Fund! RoseGriffin

6:17pm Tue 24 Jul 12

RoseGriffin says...

I paid a premium for my home in Bowers Gifford when I purchased it in 1981 because I wanted to live in a green belt area. As a single parent family I have not found life easy but I have worked and paid taxes for 45 years and council tax to Basildon DC for almost 32 years.

I have sunk the whole of my pension fund in to improving my home in Bowers Gifford, where I had intended to live for the rest of my life. I now find out that there is a possibility that 1300 homes will be built on the green belt land at the end of my garden and further 2275 down the road.

Over the past 30+ years I and several of my neighbours, either independently or together, have tried to buy the field on the other side of Westlake Avenue to ensure that it stayed as green belt. The old farmer always refused to sell because he wanted to make sure that it was never used for building in his lifetime. When the farmer died a relative outside the area inherited the land. We had no idea that the farm was up for sale or that it had been identified by Meridian Strategic Development as a building site.

The people of Bowers Gifford have had to endure 2 years of dirt, dust, noise and traffic jams from the Saddlers Farm Development - which is still not finished! How many years of trauma would we have to endure if the new development went ahead? How will Saddlers Farm cope with all this new traffic?

Why on earth would Nottingham County Council and a developer want to buy this land for building without discussing the issue first with either the Parish Council or Basildon District Council?

The managing director of Meridian, stated at the recent exhibition, that Basildon District Council has had a long history of not meeting its 5 year housing land requirements. Has this purchase and development therefore been encouraged by central government? Will it be used to relocate the overspill from London? How much will these people be paid to relocate? How much will people who currently live in Bowers Gifford be paid in compensation for the devaluation in their properties?

Has it not occurred to NCCPF, Meridian or central government that Basildon District Council councillors might have been elected to serve the interests of the local population rather than those who live outside of the Basildon area? Why on earth do NCC and Meridian have to stick their noses into Basildon affairs? NCC should worry about meeting its own housing targets.

Don't we still live in a democracy?
I paid a premium for my home in Bowers Gifford when I purchased it in 1981 because I wanted to live in a green belt area. As a single parent family I have not found life easy but I have worked and paid taxes for 45 years and council tax to Basildon DC for almost 32 years. I have sunk the whole of my pension fund in to improving my home in Bowers Gifford, where I had intended to live for the rest of my life. I now find out that there is a possibility that 1300 homes will be built on the green belt land at the end of my garden and further 2275 down the road. Over the past 30+ years I and several of my neighbours, either independently or together, have tried to buy the field on the other side of Westlake Avenue to ensure that it stayed as green belt. The old farmer always refused to sell because he wanted to make sure that it was never used for building in his lifetime. When the farmer died a relative outside the area inherited the land. We had no idea that the farm was up for sale or that it had been identified by Meridian Strategic Development as a building site. The people of Bowers Gifford have had to endure 2 years of dirt, dust, noise and traffic jams from the Saddlers Farm Development - which is still not finished! How many years of trauma would we have to endure if the new development went ahead? How will Saddlers Farm cope with all this new traffic? Why on earth would Nottingham County Council and a developer want to buy this land for building without discussing the issue first with either the Parish Council or Basildon District Council? The managing director of Meridian, stated at the recent exhibition, that Basildon District Council has had a long history of not meeting its 5 year housing land requirements. Has this purchase and development therefore been encouraged by central government? Will it be used to relocate the overspill from London? How much will these people be paid to relocate? How much will people who currently live in Bowers Gifford be paid in compensation for the devaluation in their properties? Has it not occurred to NCCPF, Meridian or central government that Basildon District Council councillors might have been elected to serve the interests of the local population rather than those who live outside of the Basildon area? Why on earth do NCC and Meridian have to stick their noses into Basildon affairs? NCC should worry about meeting its own housing targets. Don't we still live in a democracy? RoseGriffin

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