Mum and son found dead at home in Billericay suffering from gunshot wounds

Basildon Recorder: Police carried out searches at the home in Pitsea View Road, Crays Hill Police carried out searches at the home in Pitsea View Road, Crays Hill

POLICE have launched an investigation after a mother and son, were found dead at their home with gunshot wounds.

Officers went to check the home at Crays Hill, Billericay, on Monday evening following concerns for the welfare of the Maureen Tyler and her son Mark.

They had not been seen for a few days.

When police got into the home they found the pair dead with gunshot wounds.

Police said they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the deaths.

A spokesman said: "At this time, police are not seeking anyone else in connection with this incident, however a detailed forensic examination will be taking place to establish the exact circumstances of both deaths."

Senior Investigating Officer, Det Ch Insp Mark Hall said: "We are investigating the circumstances leading up to the deaths of these two people, who have not been formally identified, but we believe them to be mother and son.

"We believe that they may have been dead for some days and need to speak to anyone who has been in the area of Pitsea View Road recently and has any information that can help us with our enquiries.”

 

 

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1:57pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Rich'Carol says...

No point guessing but with report we all read if police not looking elsewhere or for anyone else then it murder then suicide unless someone has a better answer . ????????
No point guessing but with report we all read if police not looking elsewhere or for anyone else then it murder then suicide unless someone has a better answer . ???????? Rich'Carol

2:22pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Audioman says...

Here we go again road closed and men in white suits walking about
Here we go again road closed and men in white suits walking about Audioman

2:27pm Tue 4 Sep 12

PJR-121 says...

Carol - it could have been anything, mother of disabled son unable to cope, family feud turns nasty. but it certainly sounds like what you've described.

Out of interest, didn't your name have a hyphen in it before? Have you had troube with the Echo's log in? I get it on so many occasions.

Echo - you state Basildon in the headline, and Billericay in the article. Geography fail again.

Finally whatever the circumstances, two people have lost their lives in one of the most violent ways possible. my condolences to any family and friends of each.
Carol - it could have been anything, mother of disabled son unable to cope, family feud turns nasty. but it certainly sounds like what you've described. Out of interest, didn't your name have a hyphen in it before? Have you had troube with the Echo's log in? I get it on so many occasions. Echo - you state Basildon in the headline, and Billericay in the article. Geography fail again. Finally whatever the circumstances, two people have lost their lives in one of the most violent ways possible. my condolences to any family and friends of each. PJR-121

8:47pm Tue 4 Sep 12

tatersalad says...

Rich'Carol wrote:
No point guessing but with report we all read if police not looking elsewhere or for anyone else then it murder then suicide unless someone has a better answer . ????????
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[quote][p][bold]Rich'Carol[/bold] wrote: No point guessing but with report we all read if police not looking elsewhere or for anyone else then it murder then suicide unless someone has a better answer . ????????[/p][/quote]if you run out of ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???? Here are some extras tatersalad

7:55am Wed 5 Sep 12

Rich~Carol says...

PJR-121 wrote:
Carol - it could have been anything, mother of disabled son unable to cope, family feud turns nasty. but it certainly sounds like what you've described.

Out of interest, didn't your name have a hyphen in it before? Have you had troube with the Echo's log in? I get it on so many occasions.

Echo - you state Basildon in the headline, and Billericay in the article. Geography fail again.

Finally whatever the circumstances, two people have lost their lives in one of the most violent ways possible. my condolences to any family and friends of each.
Yep login is ssshit so had to register again and start from fresh but its not a problem next time it will be a plus sign login
[quote][p][bold]PJR-121[/bold] wrote: Carol - it could have been anything, mother of disabled son unable to cope, family feud turns nasty. but it certainly sounds like what you've described. Out of interest, didn't your name have a hyphen in it before? Have you had troube with the Echo's log in? I get it on so many occasions. Echo - you state Basildon in the headline, and Billericay in the article. Geography fail again. Finally whatever the circumstances, two people have lost their lives in one of the most violent ways possible. my condolences to any family and friends of each.[/p][/quote]Yep login is ssshit so had to register again and start from fresh but its not a problem next time it will be a plus sign login Rich~Carol

11:48am Wed 5 Sep 12

pilfold3 says...

PJR-121 wrote:
Carol - it could have been anything, mother of disabled son unable to cope, family feud turns nasty. but it certainly sounds like what you've described.

Out of interest, didn't your name have a hyphen in it before? Have you had troube with the Echo's log in? I get it on so many occasions.

Echo - you state Basildon in the headline, and Billericay in the article. Geography fail again.

Finally whatever the circumstances, two people have lost their lives in one of the most violent ways possible. my condolences to any family and friends of each.
maureen was a very lovey lady. would have done anything for any one. her **** of a son was not disabled.but was one very sick f--k. had do be to do that do his very lovey mum. god bless maureen you will be very sadly missed xxxxxx
[quote][p][bold]PJR-121[/bold] wrote: Carol - it could have been anything, mother of disabled son unable to cope, family feud turns nasty. but it certainly sounds like what you've described. Out of interest, didn't your name have a hyphen in it before? Have you had troube with the Echo's log in? I get it on so many occasions. Echo - you state Basildon in the headline, and Billericay in the article. Geography fail again. Finally whatever the circumstances, two people have lost their lives in one of the most violent ways possible. my condolences to any family and friends of each.[/p][/quote]maureen was a very lovey lady. would have done anything for any one. her **** of a son was not disabled.but was one very sick f--k. had do be to do that do his very lovey mum. god bless maureen you will be very sadly missed xxxxxx pilfold3

1:55pm Wed 5 Sep 12

01268557741 says...

mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided
mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided 01268557741

5:31pm Wed 5 Sep 12

shoebury52 says...

01268557741 wrote:
mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided
Well let's all blame the police/government. So if this is the case you knew him and knew he had problems and was unstable so you did nothing so therefore your equally to blame. People's parents die every day in this country and around the world it don't drive them to something like this. Waste of 2lifes. I am sure they will both be missed by friends and family
[quote][p][bold]01268557741[/bold] wrote: mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided[/p][/quote]Well let's all blame the police/government. So if this is the case you knew him and knew he had problems and was unstable so you did nothing so therefore your equally to blame. People's parents die every day in this country and around the world it don't drive them to something like this. Waste of 2lifes. I am sure they will both be missed by friends and family shoebury52

8:05am Thu 6 Sep 12

Barry Bas says...

01268557741 wrote:
mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided
What ever happened it is a terrible waste of life.

It may be a bit late now but may i suggest you don't use what I assume to be your phone number as your user name.
[quote][p][bold]01268557741[/bold] wrote: mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided[/p][/quote]What ever happened it is a terrible waste of life. It may be a bit late now but may i suggest you don't use what I assume to be your phone number as your user name. Barry Bas

1:01pm Thu 6 Sep 12

benfleet101 says...

shoebury52 wrote:
01268557741 wrote:
mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided
Well let's all blame the police/government. So if this is the case you knew him and knew he had problems and was unstable so you did nothing so therefore your equally to blame. People's parents die every day in this country and around the world it don't drive them to something like this. Waste of 2lifes. I am sure they will both be missed by friends and family
If he had previously committed the offence of stabbing his neighbour, and was let back into the community without due diligence being taken by the relevant authority to monitor the risk or his situation, then yes, point the finger of blame at the authority. If it had been an innocent child killed and not his mother, you would have been singing from a different songbook. As to accusing this neighbour of being as much to blame, that seems rather premature and bigoted given how little we know of the background and actual facts from just this Echo report.
[quote][p][bold]shoebury52[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]01268557741[/bold] wrote: mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided[/p][/quote]Well let's all blame the police/government. So if this is the case you knew him and knew he had problems and was unstable so you did nothing so therefore your equally to blame. People's parents die every day in this country and around the world it don't drive them to something like this. Waste of 2lifes. I am sure they will both be missed by friends and family[/p][/quote]If he had previously committed the offence of stabbing his neighbour, and was let back into the community without due diligence being taken by the relevant authority to monitor the risk or his situation, then yes, point the finger of blame at the authority. If it had been an innocent child killed and not his mother, you would have been singing from a different songbook. As to accusing this neighbour of being as much to blame, that seems rather premature and bigoted given how little we know of the background and actual facts from just this Echo report. benfleet101

2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 12

shoebury52 says...

benfleet101 wrote:
shoebury52 wrote:
01268557741 wrote:
mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided
Well let's all blame the police/government. So if this is the case you knew him and knew he had problems and was unstable so you did nothing so therefore your equally to blame. People's parents die every day in this country and around the world it don't drive them to something like this. Waste of 2lifes. I am sure they will both be missed by friends and family
If he had previously committed the offence of stabbing his neighbour, and was let back into the community without due diligence being taken by the relevant authority to monitor the risk or his situation, then yes, point the finger of blame at the authority. If it had been an innocent child killed and not his mother, you would have been singing from a different songbook. As to accusing this neighbour of being as much to blame, that seems rather premature and bigoted given how little we know of the background and actual facts from just this Echo report.
Well I say same to you you don't know the facts of the stabbing. If he was guilty of it you are not let back out. The guy on here is not a neighbour is nan lives along the street, do you no everything about everyone in your street cos I don't. Don't matter if it was a child his mum aunt sister nan every life counts the same.
[quote][p][bold]benfleet101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shoebury52[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]01268557741[/bold] wrote: mark was mentaly ill my nan lives on his road he recently stabbed his neighbour and his dad died about 4 months ago and he actually went into ward 10 for a period of time and obvs wernt coping wth the death of his father armed police have been at his property once befor looking for his brother but he was actually a nice guy jus ill and unable to cope with reality he seeked help and nothing worked for him he has had a terrible time trying to cope with his fathers death and amost other things was going to seriously hurt someone again at some point i blame the goverment for allowing this mentaly ill man out of hospital after he stabbed his neighbour, he needed some one to help him and now him and his mother are dead had anyone elses been there maybe them too its a shame that the system has let the man down wen this could have been avoided[/p][/quote]Well let's all blame the police/government. So if this is the case you knew him and knew he had problems and was unstable so you did nothing so therefore your equally to blame. People's parents die every day in this country and around the world it don't drive them to something like this. Waste of 2lifes. I am sure they will both be missed by friends and family[/p][/quote]If he had previously committed the offence of stabbing his neighbour, and was let back into the community without due diligence being taken by the relevant authority to monitor the risk or his situation, then yes, point the finger of blame at the authority. If it had been an innocent child killed and not his mother, you would have been singing from a different songbook. As to accusing this neighbour of being as much to blame, that seems rather premature and bigoted given how little we know of the background and actual facts from just this Echo report.[/p][/quote]Well I say same to you you don't know the facts of the stabbing. If he was guilty of it you are not let back out. The guy on here is not a neighbour is nan lives along the street, do you no everything about everyone in your street cos I don't. Don't matter if it was a child his mum aunt sister nan every life counts the same. shoebury52

12:21pm Fri 7 Sep 12

not known says...

wonder if antidepressants were involved!
wonder if antidepressants were involved! not known

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