Clampers in Laindon will drive all our customers away

Basildon Recorder: Fish and chip shop owner Danielle Adams Fish and chip shop owner Danielle Adams

BUSINESSES at a parade of shops in Laindon claim controversial clampers are driving their customers away.

Shop owners say they are having to feel the wrath of angry motorists who get clamped and then get hit with fines of £200 to get their car back.

One shop owner also said the clampers, who are operating at the Station Gate parade, opposite Laindon train station, are making as much as £1,000 a night because motorists don’t spot the warning signs which have been put up above eye level.

Danielle Adams, owner of The Chippy at Station Gate, said: “I have had customers come in, place big orders and then refuse to come back because they have been clamped. Some people shout at us and can be quite abusive, but we have to explain it’s not our fault.

“On a Friday night the clampers must easily make £1,000. They usually come out in the evening when it’s really busy with customers parking up to buy dinner. The signs really need to be lower.

“There is nothing we can do about it unless all the other businesses agree to start a petition.”

Clamping firm Parking Control Services was drafted in by the landlord of Station Gate Parade in July to manage parking restrictions.

Six spaces are reserved for residents living in flats above the shops and in recent weeks clampers have been stepping up their action.

Last week the Echo told how Patrick Gomes, 59, of Cum-berland Drive, Laindon, had to pay £200 cash to release his Citroen having stopped for just a few minutes to pick up a £2.50 spring roll from Chinese take-away Good Food. Other motorists have since come forward to reveal they too were targeted and also told they had to pay in cash.

John Dornan, councillor responsible for environment, who represents Laindon Park ward, said residents had also contacted him about the problem. He said: “The shops will suffer and the more people who are punished for using those shops the more people will stop going altogether. Basildon Council has been doing everything it can to help out businesses, so something like this is worrying. The signs need to be legible and the scheme needs to be carried out correctly. You can’t just turn up and clamp people unless appropriate steps have been taken to warn them.

“Clamping is always a contentious issue and for a start if someone asks for cash then that isn’t right. Who walks around with that amount of money in this day and age? It’s ludicrous and needs looking into.”

The Echo called and e-mailed Parking Control Services but received no response.

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8:56am Thu 13 Sep 12

Biker One says...

From the 1st of October these parasites will have to find proper jobs. No longer will they be able to prey on the unsuspecting motorist and fashion their business model on poorly placed and written signage, all based upon contract law.
It's official read it here >>
http://www.direct.go
v.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom
/DG_190178
From the 1st of October these parasites will have to find proper jobs. No longer will they be able to prey on the unsuspecting motorist and fashion their business model on poorly placed and written signage, all based upon contract law. It's official read it here >> http://www.direct.go v.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom /DG_190178 Biker One

9:22am Thu 13 Sep 12

Russ13 says...

If the signs need to be lower then so be it but what's the answer otherwise?

If these are designated resident parking bays then people shouldn't just park in them.

Yes it's only for "2 minutes guv'nor" but that's no consolation when you arrive home to find you can't park where you should be able to park.

I live in a small block of flats which has it's own car park and designated spaces (these are actually noted on the deeds to the property) and there was a stage when people visiting neighbouring properties would use our car park/spaces.

A couple of times I confronted to the offenders and got the attitude "There's nothing to stop us parking there" and at that point I would explain that designated space was no different to the driveway on the fronts of their houses and would they like me to park my car there ;-)
If the signs need to be lower then so be it but what's the answer otherwise? If these are designated resident parking bays then people shouldn't just park in them. Yes it's only for "2 minutes guv'nor" but that's no consolation when you arrive home to find you can't park where you should be able to park. I live in a small block of flats which has it's own car park and designated spaces (these are actually noted on the deeds to the property) and there was a stage when people visiting neighbouring properties would use our car park/spaces. A couple of times I confronted to the offenders and got the attitude "There's nothing to stop us parking there" and at that point I would explain that designated space was no different to the driveway on the fronts of their houses and would they like me to park my car there ;-) Russ13

9:48am Thu 13 Sep 12

Southchurch Steve says...

Russ13 wrote:
If the signs need to be lower then so be it but what's the answer otherwise? If these are designated resident parking bays then people shouldn't just park in them. Yes it's only for "2 minutes guv'nor" but that's no consolation when you arrive home to find you can't park where you should be able to park. I live in a small block of flats which has it's own car park and designated spaces (these are actually noted on the deeds to the property) and there was a stage when people visiting neighbouring properties would use our car park/spaces. A couple of times I confronted to the offenders and got the attitude "There's nothing to stop us parking there" and at that point I would explain that designated space was no different to the driveway on the fronts of their houses and would they like me to park my car there ;-)
That situation is entirely different though to a parking bay outside a shop. Most people would assume that those bays were for those shops, surely? One might have a brief look for a meter or parking restriction sign but how far would one be expected to research the validity of a parking space? If the idea was keep the bays clear for residents, then why not paint "Residents Only" in the bays? If people then parked in them, then fair game. But if they're unmarked save for a small sign out of the general view, then this is little more than a trap, and as such is unfair.
[quote][p][bold]Russ13[/bold] wrote: If the signs need to be lower then so be it but what's the answer otherwise? If these are designated resident parking bays then people shouldn't just park in them. Yes it's only for "2 minutes guv'nor" but that's no consolation when you arrive home to find you can't park where you should be able to park. I live in a small block of flats which has it's own car park and designated spaces (these are actually noted on the deeds to the property) and there was a stage when people visiting neighbouring properties would use our car park/spaces. A couple of times I confronted to the offenders and got the attitude "There's nothing to stop us parking there" and at that point I would explain that designated space was no different to the driveway on the fronts of their houses and would they like me to park my car there ;-)[/p][/quote]That situation is entirely different though to a parking bay outside a shop. Most people would assume that those bays were for those shops, surely? One might have a brief look for a meter or parking restriction sign but how far would one be expected to research the validity of a parking space? If the idea was keep the bays clear for residents, then why not paint "Residents Only" in the bays? If people then parked in them, then fair game. But if they're unmarked save for a small sign out of the general view, then this is little more than a trap, and as such is unfair. Southchurch Steve

10:10am Thu 13 Sep 12

notinwestcliffanymore says...

would it hurt the chippy and other shops to put their own sign in their windows warning their customers. After all if there ain't no doe to be made the clampers will move on.
would it hurt the chippy and other shops to put their own sign in their windows warning their customers. After all if there ain't no doe to be made the clampers will move on. notinwestcliffanymore

10:40am Thu 13 Sep 12

exBillericayDicky says...

Biker One wrote:
From the 1st of October these parasites will have to find proper jobs. No longer will they be able to prey on the unsuspecting motorist and fashion their business model on poorly placed and written signage, all based upon contract law. It's official read it here >> http://www.direct.go v.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom /DG_190178
While it will be only lawful entitied that can clamp, they can delegate to private companies : "Bodies with lawful authority to clamp and tow may continue to contract out this work to private companies" So Parking Services (any connection to the infamous LBS?) will have to prey elsewhere

However, as you put these people will not be able to be employed by private landowners.
[quote][p][bold]Biker One[/bold] wrote: From the 1st of October these parasites will have to find proper jobs. No longer will they be able to prey on the unsuspecting motorist and fashion their business model on poorly placed and written signage, all based upon contract law. It's official read it here >> http://www.direct.go v.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom /DG_190178[/p][/quote]While it will be only lawful entitied that can clamp, they can delegate to private companies : "Bodies with lawful authority to clamp and tow may continue to contract out this work to private companies" So Parking Services (any connection to the infamous LBS?) will have to prey elsewhere However, as you put these people will not be able to be employed by private landowners. exBillericayDicky

11:04am Thu 13 Sep 12

Brunning999 says...

Strange that I have NEVER in my life got nicked for parking and the reason is simple:

I DON'T PARK MY CAR WHEREVER I WANT !
Strange that I have NEVER in my life got nicked for parking and the reason is simple: I DON'T PARK MY CAR WHEREVER I WANT ! Brunning999

11:15am Thu 13 Sep 12

MrsB1978 says...

The problem is the bays are only unclearly marked, the sign is at least 10ft up on a brick wall, and can't be seen, Obviously more so in the evenings, when people are more likely to park there to get their takeaway
The firm are completely unlawful, My mum parked there unknowingly ( the clamper parks behind a tree waiting for people to park there ) and was clamped
She explained she was unable to pay £200 in fines as she has a disabled husband at home and therefore didn't have the money
A guy at the end of a long 0906 premium number call agreed to a lower charge if she paid the clamper cash in hand, she did this and was unclamped with no reciept as proof of payment
The problem is the bays are only unclearly marked, the sign is at least 10ft up on a brick wall, and can't be seen, Obviously more so in the evenings, when people are more likely to park there to get their takeaway The firm are completely unlawful, My mum parked there unknowingly ( the clamper parks behind a tree waiting for people to park there ) and was clamped She explained she was unable to pay £200 in fines as she has a disabled husband at home and therefore didn't have the money A guy at the end of a long 0906 premium number call agreed to a lower charge if she paid the clamper cash in hand, she did this and was unclamped with no reciept as proof of payment MrsB1978

11:36am Thu 13 Sep 12

Major Incident says...

exBillericayDicky wrote:
Biker One wrote: From the 1st of October these parasites will have to find proper jobs. No longer will they be able to prey on the unsuspecting motorist and fashion their business model on poorly placed and written signage, all based upon contract law. It's official read it here >> http://www.direct.go v.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom /DG_190178
While it will be only lawful entitied that can clamp, they can delegate to private companies : "Bodies with lawful authority to clamp and tow may continue to contract out this work to private companies" So Parking Services (any connection to the infamous LBS?) will have to prey elsewhere However, as you put these people will not be able to be employed by private landowners.
Clamping as described in this article and others will be unlawful from 1st October. BUT the legislation provides an alternative remedy by extending the powers of the police and local authorities to remove vehicles from private land under specific circumstances.
http://www.legislati
on.gov.uk/ukpga/2012
/9/part/3/chapter/2/
enacted

The legislation also makes provision for the recovery of parking charges by land owners from the driver or registered keeper. This applies whether the vehicle was allowed to be there (e.g. a privately operated public carpark) or not. http://www.legislati
on.gov.uk/ukpga/2012
/9/schedule/4/enacte
d
[quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biker One[/bold] wrote: From the 1st of October these parasites will have to find proper jobs. No longer will they be able to prey on the unsuspecting motorist and fashion their business model on poorly placed and written signage, all based upon contract law. It's official read it here >> http://www.direct.go v.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom /DG_190178[/p][/quote]While it will be only lawful entitied that can clamp, they can delegate to private companies : "Bodies with lawful authority to clamp and tow may continue to contract out this work to private companies" So Parking Services (any connection to the infamous LBS?) will have to prey elsewhere However, as you put these people will not be able to be employed by private landowners.[/p][/quote]Clamping as described in this article and others will be unlawful from 1st October. BUT the legislation provides an alternative remedy by extending the powers of the police and local authorities to remove vehicles from private land under specific circumstances. http://www.legislati on.gov.uk/ukpga/2012 /9/part/3/chapter/2/ enacted The legislation also makes provision for the recovery of parking charges by land owners from the driver or registered keeper. This applies whether the vehicle was allowed to be there (e.g. a privately operated public carpark) or not. http://www.legislati on.gov.uk/ukpga/2012 /9/schedule/4/enacte d Major Incident

11:48am Thu 13 Sep 12

PJR-121 says...

What I don' tunderstand - I visit The Chippy, and I have never had a problem parking outside.

What I really don't understand it that you have to drive past the residential parking bays to get to the ones outside the shops - so these people being clamped can't be bothered to see round the corner that there are at least eight or nine free spaces available.

If the car park was constantly full then maybe it would be understandable that they could think about parking there - but I've never seen it full!
What I don' tunderstand - I visit The Chippy, and I have never had a problem parking outside. What I really don't understand it that you have to drive past the residential parking bays to get to the ones outside the shops - so these people being clamped can't be bothered to see round the corner that there are at least eight or nine free spaces available. If the car park was constantly full then maybe it would be understandable that they could think about parking there - but I've never seen it full! PJR-121

12:14pm Thu 13 Sep 12

MrsB1978 says...

PJR-121 wrote:
What I don' tunderstand - I visit The Chippy, and I have never had a problem parking outside. What I really don't understand it that you have to drive past the residential parking bays to get to the ones outside the shops - so these people being clamped can't be bothered to see round the corner that there are at least eight or nine free spaces available. If the car park was constantly full then maybe it would be understandable that they could think about parking there - but I've never seen it full!
I drive there twice a day and often it's nearly full, but to be fair if you can't see the sign in the first place to know you''ve parked illegally, why would you not park in the first available space?
[quote][p][bold]PJR-121[/bold] wrote: What I don' tunderstand - I visit The Chippy, and I have never had a problem parking outside. What I really don't understand it that you have to drive past the residential parking bays to get to the ones outside the shops - so these people being clamped can't be bothered to see round the corner that there are at least eight or nine free spaces available. If the car park was constantly full then maybe it would be understandable that they could think about parking there - but I've never seen it full![/p][/quote]I drive there twice a day and often it's nearly full, but to be fair if you can't see the sign in the first place to know you''ve parked illegally, why would you not park in the first available space? MrsB1978

12:21pm Thu 13 Sep 12

CALL ME CLINT says...

notinwestcliffanymor
e
wrote:
would it hurt the chippy and other shops to put their own sign in their windows warning their customers. After all if there ain't no doe to be made the clampers will move on.
Excellent idea- could even attach signs at eye level on the posts or whatever the 'official' signs are on. The trouble is I guess that might discourage customers altogether.
[quote][p][bold]notinwestcliffanymor e[/bold] wrote: would it hurt the chippy and other shops to put their own sign in their windows warning their customers. After all if there ain't no doe to be made the clampers will move on.[/p][/quote]Excellent idea- could even attach signs at eye level on the posts or whatever the 'official' signs are on. The trouble is I guess that might discourage customers altogether. CALL ME CLINT

1:53pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Basildon.lad.21 says...

Well I assume most people are local ish, so cant they just cycle there or walk there?
Well I assume most people are local ish, so cant they just cycle there or walk there? Basildon.lad.21

5:32pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Nebs says...

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
Well I assume most people are local ish, so cant they just cycle there or walk there?
People who eat chips don't do walking or cycling.
[quote][p][bold]Basildon.lad.21[/bold] wrote: Well I assume most people are local ish, so cant they just cycle there or walk there?[/p][/quote]People who eat chips don't do walking or cycling. Nebs

12:24am Fri 14 Sep 12

Trainman says...

If ANY shop is as good as the owners/tenants claim, then ANY motorist will be prepared to walk that few yards extra, rather than risk getting clamped, and regardless of what their purchase is.
If ANY shop is as good as the owners/tenants claim, then ANY motorist will be prepared to walk that few yards extra, rather than risk getting clamped, and regardless of what their purchase is. Trainman

10:52am Fri 14 Sep 12

PJR-121 says...

Trainman wrote:
If ANY shop is as good as the owners/tenants claim, then ANY motorist will be prepared to walk that few yards extra, rather than risk getting clamped, and regardless of what their purchase is.
If you mean from a parking space, the area where people are being clamped is futher away than the official parking spaces that are right outside!
[quote][p][bold]Trainman[/bold] wrote: If ANY shop is as good as the owners/tenants claim, then ANY motorist will be prepared to walk that few yards extra, rather than risk getting clamped, and regardless of what their purchase is.[/p][/quote]If you mean from a parking space, the area where people are being clamped is futher away than the official parking spaces that are right outside! PJR-121

9:20am Sat 15 Sep 12

andy:) says...

Brunning999 wrote:
Strange that I have NEVER in my life got nicked for parking and the reason is simple:

I DON'T PARK MY CAR WHEREVER I WANT !
So where do you park ?. As has been shown time and time again, these clamping companies use dodgy tactics, such as misleading/hidden signs.
[quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: Strange that I have NEVER in my life got nicked for parking and the reason is simple: I DON'T PARK MY CAR WHEREVER I WANT ![/p][/quote]So where do you park ?. As has been shown time and time again, these clamping companies use dodgy tactics, such as misleading/hidden signs. andy:)

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