Woman's wait for ambulance after being run over (From Basildon Recorder)
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Woman's 'hour long wait' for ambulance after being run over
2:00pm Wednesday 10th October 2012 in News By Gina Marden
Woman's 'hour long wait' for ambulance after being run over
A WOMAN, who was hit by a car, was left lying in the in the pouring rain for an hour waiting for paramedics, despite being just yards from the ambulance station.
The woman's partner, Matthew Hawkins, said despite being less than 100 metres from the ambulance station on Great Oaks, Basildon, 33-year-old Julene’ Pienaar lay injured and shivering waiting to be taken to Basildon Hospital.
As Miss Pienarr crossed Great Oaks on Sunday September 23 she was struck by a vehicle, flying on to its bonnet before landing on the ground.
Passers-by and motorists rushed to help and immediately dialled 999, following the crash which happened just before 2pm.
A paramedic in a rapid response car arrived within 15-minutes.
But, because the paramedic was travelling in a car they had no spinal board or neck brace, leaving members of the public forced to help by holding a shivering Miss Pienaar’s neck.
Her partner claimed no ambulance arrived for an hour.
However the East of England Ambulance Service maintain the ambulance arrived at the scene within 40 minutes, arriving at 2.40pm after the initial 2pm call.
Comments(36)
andy:)
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2:51pm Wed 10 Oct 12
emcee
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2:54pm Wed 10 Oct 12
SpaffSpiff84 wrote:...in the rain... probably cold and frightened.
40 minutes is a long time when you're lying in the street injured...
The ambulance service is in a shambles.
emcee
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3:07pm Wed 10 Oct 12
andy:) wrote:It has nothing to do with the tories how the money any public service recieves is spent.
Plenty of fools in the South East voted for Tories, what did you expect ?
There is a lot of inefficiencies and wastage in public services and it did not help when previous governments threw money at certain services in the hope it will make that service better. In reality this extra money caused these public services to become frivolous and careless with money. When the money coming in is cut the bosses of these public services start to run around like headless chickens and start cutting frontline services, blaming the government, so that they can hide the inefficiencies of past spending. These bosses have no skills in efficient spending.and it makes you wonder what the real reason for the Ambulance boss taking "early retirement" is.
EthanEdwards
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3:25pm Wed 10 Oct 12
emcee wrote:Here here.
andy:) wrote: Plenty of fools in the South East voted for Tories, what did you expect ?It has nothing to do with the tories how the money any public service recieves is spent. There is a lot of inefficiencies and wastage in public services and it did not help when previous governments threw money at certain services in the hope it will make that service better. In reality this extra money caused these public services to become frivolous and careless with money. When the money coming in is cut the bosses of these public services start to run around like headless chickens and start cutting frontline services, blaming the government, so that they can hide the inefficiencies of past spending. These bosses have no skills in efficient spending.and it makes you wonder what the real reason for the Ambulance boss taking "early retirement" is.
SpaffSpiff84
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3:27pm Wed 10 Oct 12
xxxdave
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4:15pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Basildon.lad.21
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4:57pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Basildon.lad.21
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4:57pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:put her in their car**
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
girlie71
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5:15pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:put her in their car**
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
Ted_in_the_shed
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5:52pm Wed 10 Oct 12
girlie71 wrote:Unfortunately many good samaritans who have helped people with similar injuries to hospital, have ended up seeing the roof cut off their cars in Hospital car parks as Drs don't want to risk moving patients further with neck and back injuries. Leave it to the Ambulance service, or what's left of it!
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:put her in their car**
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
Eric Whim
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5:59pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Ted_in_the_shed wrote:if she was only a hundred metres from the ambulance station someone could have walked (or even ran) down there to get one, surely?
girlie71 wrote:Unfortunately many good samaritans who have helped people with similar injuries to hospital, have ended up seeing the roof cut off their cars in Hospital car parks as Drs don't want to risk moving patients further with neck and back injuries. Leave it to the Ambulance service, or what's left of it!Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......Basildon.lad.21 wrote: Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.put her in their car**
I hope the poor woman recovers from her accident/ordeal soon.
cgb
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6:08pm Wed 10 Oct 12
People calling ambulances when they don't need one = less on the road for people who do. Too many people think they are big yellow taxis.
Bosses in healthcare don't listen to the ground troops and there are too many middle management managers there to ensure all the box ticking occurs
Tory government health cuts. Yes wake up people the NHS is being privatised by the back door. Reduced funding to the services and private companies allowed to bid for certain areas where they will cream off the easy profit making stuff leaving the difficult /multiple problem patient behind. I was raised a Tory but work in the NHS- this is real, this is happening.
cgb
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6:09pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Eric Whim
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6:16pm Wed 10 Oct 12
cgb wrote:I find that a shocking relevation.
As for getting a spare spinal board etc - there are no spares. We are running on the bare minimum of everything.
Who is responsible for the funding of the ambulance service in Essex?
John the resonator
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7:37pm Wed 10 Oct 12
girlie71 wrote:Well said on your description, nice word.
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:put her in their car**
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
Do not fear, I think the lad twot is a wind up though. Been with us for a while under a variety of names, usually celebrating irresponsible driving.
Sort of troll behind the wheel as it were although I strongly suspect he is a no-mates social inadequate with no driving licence, or job, or partner, living with his parents. This is what happens when you give a computer to an idiot.
I sincerely hope the woman is going to make a full recovery. This delay is completely unacceptable and needs to be investigated fully.
AnotherSister
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7:40pm Wed 10 Oct 12
jakeyboi135
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9:57pm Wed 10 Oct 12
jakeyboi135
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9:57pm Wed 10 Oct 12
jakeyboi135
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9:58pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Steve Rowe
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1:03am Thu 11 Oct 12
andy:) wrote:Fools in the South East have been voting for the Tories blindly for decades without bothering about their policies.
Plenty of fools in the South East voted for Tories, what did you expect ?
SpaffSpiff84
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8:14am Thu 11 Oct 12
I-say-you-say
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11:03am Thu 11 Oct 12
John the resonator wrote:Finally someone else has realised! However I think you missed out uneducated as most of the time he clearly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about!
girlie71 wrote:Well said on your description, nice word. Do not fear, I think the lad twot is a wind up though. Been with us for a while under a variety of names, usually celebrating irresponsible driving. Sort of troll behind the wheel as it were although I strongly suspect he is a no-mates social inadequate with no driving licence, or job, or partner, living with his parents. This is what happens when you give a computer to an idiot. I sincerely hope the woman is going to make a full recovery. This delay is completely unacceptable and needs to be investigated fully.Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......Basildon.lad.21 wrote: Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.put her in their car**
As for the story itself, unfortunately this is the state our "Great" Britain has got itself into, not enough vehicles for the emergency services we pay so much for via extortionate taxes etc and people to scared to help for fear of the "where there's blame, there's a claim" society we now experience. I know from experience that after completing a First Aid Course which cost hundreds of pounds, I was basically told that if I was ever in a situation that required first aid assistance, to not touch them and just call an ambulance in case I was sued!
Olivia2847
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12:50pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Olivia2847
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12:51pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Olivia2847
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12:51pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Olivia2847
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12:52pm Thu 11 Oct 12
whataday
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1:55pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:Because if there were neck or spinal injuries moving somebody could be the difference between being quadraplegic or not even dying if spinal cord was severed when moving somebody So anybody doing that wouldnt be brave they would be dangerous
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
rugbystar79
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2:06pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:If some one is on the floor with back and neck injuries and can't move do not take it upon yourself to move them........that's common sense!
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
rugbystar79
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2:08pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Eric Whim wrote:I think the whole point is that there wasn't any ambulances in the area let alone the ambulance station in great oaks.
Ted_in_the_shed wrote:if she was only a hundred metres from the ambulance station someone could have walked (or even ran) down there to get one, surely? I hope the poor woman recovers from her accident/ordeal soon.girlie71 wrote:Unfortunately many good samaritans who have helped people with similar injuries to hospital, have ended up seeing the roof cut off their cars in Hospital car parks as Drs don't want to risk moving patients further with neck and back injuries. Leave it to the Ambulance service, or what's left of it!Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......Basildon.lad.21 wrote: Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.put her in their car**
Basildon.lad.21
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9:10pm Thu 11 Oct 12
John the resonator wrote:Mate dont give me that crap, I just come on these sites to pI55 people off like you. Im a much better driver then you, I have a job, do have a gf, and you got one right I do still live at home with my parents! Congratualtions on that you old bastar5d. I bet your a sad lonely man that cant even provide for himself, your probably sitting in a pool of pi55 now.
girlie71 wrote:Well said on your description, nice word.
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:put her in their car**
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
Do not fear, I think the lad twot is a wind up though. Been with us for a while under a variety of names, usually celebrating irresponsible driving.
Sort of troll behind the wheel as it were although I strongly suspect he is a no-mates social inadequate with no driving licence, or job, or partner, living with his parents. This is what happens when you give a computer to an idiot.
I sincerely hope the woman is going to make a full recovery. This delay is completely unacceptable and needs to be investigated fully.
John the resonator
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11:04pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:Well the main thing here is this woman who was injured having been hit by a car, the sort of thing that would be the inevitable end result in the type of driving you so often praise.
John the resonator wrote:Mate dont give me that crap, I just come on these sites to pI55 people off like you. Im a much better driver then you, I have a job, do have a gf, and you got one right I do still live at home with my parents! Congratualtions on that you old bastar5d. I bet your a sad lonely man that cant even provide for himself, your probably sitting in a pool of pi55 now.
girlie71 wrote:Well said on your description, nice word.
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:put her in their car**
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
Do not fear, I think the lad twot is a wind up though. Been with us for a while under a variety of names, usually celebrating irresponsible driving.
Sort of troll behind the wheel as it were although I strongly suspect he is a no-mates social inadequate with no driving licence, or job, or partner, living with his parents. This is what happens when you give a computer to an idiot.
I sincerely hope the woman is going to make a full recovery. This delay is completely unacceptable and needs to be investigated fully.
So my thoughts are the same, I wish the woman a full recovery.
As for you, thanks for confirming you were all those previous names. How many bans from this site is that so far then?
dinosaur1
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11:13am Fri 12 Oct 12
I-say-you-say wrote:Whoever delivered your first aid training and told you that is a fool and does not understand the meaning of first aid. Please ignore it. There are stated cases in law that if a person makes a genuine attempt to help somebody and providing of course they don't do anything totally ridiculous then they cannot be sued.
John the resonator wrote:Finally someone else has realised! However I think you missed out uneducated as most of the time he clearly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about!
girlie71 wrote:Well said on your description, nice word. Do not fear, I think the lad twot is a wind up though. Been with us for a while under a variety of names, usually celebrating irresponsible driving. Sort of troll behind the wheel as it were although I strongly suspect he is a no-mates social inadequate with no driving licence, or job, or partner, living with his parents. This is what happens when you give a computer to an idiot. I sincerely hope the woman is going to make a full recovery. This delay is completely unacceptable and needs to be investigated fully.Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......Basildon.lad.21 wrote: Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.put her in their car**
As for the story itself, unfortunately this is the state our "Great" Britain has got itself into, not enough vehicles for the emergency services we pay so much for via extortionate taxes etc and people to scared to help for fear of the "where there's blame, there's a claim" society we now experience. I know from experience that after completing a First Aid Course which cost hundreds of pounds, I was basically told that if I was ever in a situation that required first aid assistance, to not touch them and just call an ambulance in case I was sued!
dinosaur1
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11:29am Fri 12 Oct 12
Basildon.lad.21
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5:00pm Fri 12 Oct 12
John the resonator wrote:About 5
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:Well the main thing here is this woman who was injured having been hit by a car, the sort of thing that would be the inevitable end result in the type of driving you so often praise.
John the resonator wrote:Mate dont give me that crap, I just come on these sites to pI55 people off like you. Im a much better driver then you, I have a job, do have a gf, and you got one right I do still live at home with my parents! Congratualtions on that you old bastar5d. I bet your a sad lonely man that cant even provide for himself, your probably sitting in a pool of pi55 now.
girlie71 wrote:Well said on your description, nice word.
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:You twot .... so if she had neck/back injuries she would have been paralysed .......
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:put her in their car**
Why werent someone just brave enough to put her in her car, lay her down on the backseat, and drive to the hospital themselves. No one has much common sense now adays.
Do not fear, I think the lad twot is a wind up though. Been with us for a while under a variety of names, usually celebrating irresponsible driving.
Sort of troll behind the wheel as it were although I strongly suspect he is a no-mates social inadequate with no driving licence, or job, or partner, living with his parents. This is what happens when you give a computer to an idiot.
I sincerely hope the woman is going to make a full recovery. This delay is completely unacceptable and needs to be investigated fully.
So my thoughts are the same, I wish the woman a full recovery.
As for you, thanks for confirming you were all those previous names. How many bans from this site is that so far then?
mman
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8:13pm Fri 12 Oct 12
SpaffSpiff84 says...
2:33pm Wed 10 Oct 12